Chris of Arabia
Desert RATT
Re: What do?
1/4" hardwood dowel - should be cheap enough. PVA wood glue.
1/4" hardwood dowel - should be cheap enough. PVA wood glue.
What do?
- Thread starter Agileguy_101
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Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: What do?
Thanks for all the advice folks. I'm going to order a bit extractor and a dowel rod. Hopefully I'll get it done sometime next week. I'm also going to install some casters, but I'm going to do it on the long side, so I don't have to worry about balance as much.
Thanks for all the advice folks. I'm going to order a bit extractor and a dowel rod. Hopefully I'll get it done sometime next week. I'm also going to install some casters, but I'm going to do it on the long side, so I don't have to worry about balance as much.
TheLivingDead
Dawn Of The Shred
Re: What do?
Sweet. Let us know how it turns out.
Sweet. Let us know how it turns out.
MetalManiac
Li'l Junior Member
Re: What do?
That drill bits gonna jump all over creation when you try to drill into the wood. .Also, how does that go into a drill? Both sides have the cutting edge.
That drill bits gonna jump all over creation when you try to drill into the wood. .Also, how does that go into a drill? Both sides have the cutting edge.
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: What do?
I saw that... I dunno. Any pointers as to where I could find a better bit?
I saw that... I dunno. Any pointers as to where I could find a better bit?
MetalManiac
Li'l Junior Member
Re: What do?
That happened to me, and I used the smallest hole saw I could find, but when you go to drill, the bit jumps , and so I rouhged fairly good.
These things usually require a drill prsss, but you you get a cabinet into a drill press I have no clue.
You can use a regular drill bit, and drill on three sides of the screw, and weasle it out with needlenose I guess. IDK.
That happened to me, and I used the smallest hole saw I could find, but when you go to drill, the bit jumps , and so I rouhged fairly good.
These things usually require a drill prsss, but you you get a cabinet into a drill press I have no clue.
You can use a regular drill bit, and drill on three sides of the screw, and weasle it out with needlenose I guess. IDK.
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: What do?
I'll just be careful and take my time. I'm in no rush to get this done.
I'll just be careful and take my time. I'm in no rush to get this done.
briggleman
New member
Re: What do?
I will give you a couple more ideas, .... I work with wood a lot and have had my share of broken wood screws.
One trick I learned was to use a dremel tool with a cutting wheel. I would use the cutting wheel to cut a slot into the broken screw and then use a regular screwdriver to extract it.
Second is to use a screw extractor and I have always had good luck with this method. I use a small drill bit, (smaller that the screw of course) to drill into the screw. In your case you will now use the smallest screw extractor you can find and just back it out by inserting it into the small hole you just drilled and slowly turning. It will grip and then the screw will start to turn also.
I have had screws just come apart when doing the extractor method,.... I then use the small drill bit and drill right beside the screw, all the way around it several times, I then wiggle it out.
I use toothpicks to fill in the hole by pushing the toothpick in as far as it will go, breaking it off, and then repeating until the hole is full of wood. You can even use a little wood glue each time on the toothpick so it really makes a great filler.
Just a few ideas.... Hope it helps.
Brad
I will give you a couple more ideas, .... I work with wood a lot and have had my share of broken wood screws.
One trick I learned was to use a dremel tool with a cutting wheel. I would use the cutting wheel to cut a slot into the broken screw and then use a regular screwdriver to extract it.
Second is to use a screw extractor and I have always had good luck with this method. I use a small drill bit, (smaller that the screw of course) to drill into the screw. In your case you will now use the smallest screw extractor you can find and just back it out by inserting it into the small hole you just drilled and slowly turning. It will grip and then the screw will start to turn also.
I have had screws just come apart when doing the extractor method,.... I then use the small drill bit and drill right beside the screw, all the way around it several times, I then wiggle it out.
I use toothpicks to fill in the hole by pushing the toothpick in as far as it will go, breaking it off, and then repeating until the hole is full of wood. You can even use a little wood glue each time on the toothpick so it really makes a great filler.
Just a few ideas.... Hope it helps.
Brad
MojoMonster
Active member
Re: What do?
It looks like you have enough of the screw visible to try briggleman's dremel tool trick.
I'd start there if you can.
Chuck it up tight, set your drill to reverse.
With the drill going as slow as you can, press the bit into the wood to get a groove started.
Set it to forward and again, slowly, drill into the wood, putting more pressure as you need to.
Since it's a new bit, it should cut pretty easily.
I'm not sure if the screw is located in anything besides the sheet of plywood it's screwed into, so you might have to drill through that and any internal support brace.
Once you've drilled through, get an appropriately sized hardwood dowel from your local hardware store... they're cheap and cut off a 1 - 2" piece.
Fluted dowels will actually work better, but you typically have to buy a bag of them.
If you can, score a couple of grooves along the side of the dowel from top to bottom. This will help to channel the glue.
Then just slather it with your favorite wood glue and with a hammer, tap it into the hole.
Don't hit the actual dowel, use a scrap piece of wood.
Let it dry overnight and then redrill your new screw hole.
It looks long enough for that.
Bear in mind that plug/hole cutters are typically meant to be used in drill presses.
It looks like you have enough of the screw visible to try briggleman's dremel tool trick.
I'd start there if you can.
That Amazon plug cutter is fine.
Chuck it up tight, set your drill to reverse.
With the drill going as slow as you can, press the bit into the wood to get a groove started.
Set it to forward and again, slowly, drill into the wood, putting more pressure as you need to.
Since it's a new bit, it should cut pretty easily.
I'm not sure if the screw is located in anything besides the sheet of plywood it's screwed into, so you might have to drill through that and any internal support brace.
Once you've drilled through, get an appropriately sized hardwood dowel from your local hardware store... they're cheap and cut off a 1 - 2" piece.
Fluted dowels will actually work better, but you typically have to buy a bag of them.
If you can, score a couple of grooves along the side of the dowel from top to bottom. This will help to channel the glue.
Then just slather it with your favorite wood glue and with a hammer, tap it into the hole.
Don't hit the actual dowel, use a scrap piece of wood.
Let it dry overnight and then redrill your new screw hole.
You'd just put one end into the chuck.
It looks long enough for that.
Bear in mind that plug/hole cutters are typically meant to be used in drill presses.
MojoMonster
Active member
Re: What do?
There aren't your typical DIY drill presses, but larger shop presses.
Find the nearest Harbor Freight for an example.
With larger pedestal drill presses, the drill head and/or press bed can be rotated for a deeper clearance.
There aren't your typical DIY drill presses, but larger shop presses.
Find the nearest Harbor Freight for an example.
glassman
Electron Herder
Re: What do?
Easy fix 101 since this isn't a piece of fine furniture and nobody but you will know it ever had an issue:
1. Turn the cab upside down.
2. line an awl up next to the broke off screw.
3. Smack it with a hammer a few times to start a new hole AND move the broken one over a touch.
4. Secure the glide with a new screw, leaving the old one in there to help hold it.
Done...don't make this any more complicated than it is.
Easy fix 101 since this isn't a piece of fine furniture and nobody but you will know it ever had an issue:
1. Turn the cab upside down.
2. line an awl up next to the broke off screw.
3. Smack it with a hammer a few times to start a new hole AND move the broken one over a touch.
4. Secure the glide with a new screw, leaving the old one in there to help hold it.
Done...don't make this any more complicated than it is.
briggleman
New member
Re: What do?
GREAT IDEA........ if it works??????????
I love simplicity as anyone of you do, HOWEVER, look again at the corner piece he is trying to replicate. Only one place to make a new hole and use the corner piece along with the foot. As you suggest, he may be able to place a screw beside the broken one without too much strain on the corner bracket, Lets hope!!!!!............. BUT, if this does not work, he needs to get the screw out of there!
I just love forums, where else could one find a discussion on a 101 ways to screw!!!!!!!!!! or screw up!!!!
GREAT IDEA........ if it works??????????
I love simplicity as anyone of you do, HOWEVER, look again at the corner piece he is trying to replicate. Only one place to make a new hole and use the corner piece along with the foot. As you suggest, he may be able to place a screw beside the broken one without too much strain on the corner bracket, Lets hope!!!!!............. BUT, if this does not work, he needs to get the screw out of there!
I just love forums, where else could one find a discussion on a 101 ways to screw!!!!!!!!!! or screw up!!!!
MojoMonster
Active member
Re: What do?
Hmmmm... I wonder if JB Weld would work on that?
Or maybe a crap load of epoxy and some sawdust?
Come on guys... there's got to be at least 99 more ways this can be fixed.
You guys aren't being imaginative enough!
Hmmmm... I wonder if JB Weld would work on that?
Or maybe a crap load of epoxy and some sawdust?
Come on guys... there's got to be at least 99 more ways this can be fixed.
You guys aren't being imaginative enough!
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: What do?
Lol
I'm just going to go with the extractor.
Lol
I'm just going to go with the extractor.
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: What do?
Well, I got the bit today. Went to get the screw out of my cab... and the bit ****ing broke in the wood.
I'm going to try Brad's dremel trick. I really hope that works.
Well, I got the bit today. Went to get the screw out of my cab... and the bit ****ing broke in the wood.
I'm going to try Brad's dremel trick. I really hope that works.
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: What do?
Nope, that didn't work. I'm ****ed.
Nope, that didn't work. I'm ****ed.
MojoMonster
Active member
Re: What do?
Well that sucks.
Hmm.
Can you turn it around and use it?
Is it that fragile or were you pushing down really hard?
If you can, try it again going really slowly.
If you can't reuse the other side of that bit, the only thing I can think of is getting a normal hole saw, the kind Jerry was talking about that comes in a set of about 5 sizes.
Use the smallest one that'll remove the least wood, drilling *around* the old screw as deep as you can go and then chiseling out the wood/screw, etc., until you get it all out.
Fix it with a dowel the same size as the hole you made.
Double check that you can get a dowel the same size as that smallest hole saw bit.
Wow, so the hollow bit broke off in the wood?
Well that sucks.
Hmm.
Can you turn it around and use it?
Is it that fragile or were you pushing down really hard?
If you can, try it again going really slowly.
If you can't reuse the other side of that bit, the only thing I can think of is getting a normal hole saw, the kind Jerry was talking about that comes in a set of about 5 sizes.
Use the smallest one that'll remove the least wood, drilling *around* the old screw as deep as you can go and then chiseling out the wood/screw, etc., until you get it all out.
Fix it with a dowel the same size as the hole you made.
Double check that you can get a dowel the same size as that smallest hole saw bit.
