What does the capacitor in the neck Invader do?

[Driverfrown]

Re: What does the capacitor in the neck Invader do?

Yeah I think the logic they are using is to allow for split to slug to not be effected by the cap, and also to allow split to screw to retain the inline cut. I personally don't like it there for an invader
because I would not normally have it wired in parallel or split but I can see how it would be more versatile
to some degree if someone did. The inline to hot path .01uf cap when split to screw makes the neck output similar to a cocked wah without the high cut.
Good point about the resonant peak .

 

[devastone]

Re: What does the capacitor in the neck Invader do?

I appreciate all the responses.

You can see why I'm confused. I googled the subject and found a variety of answers before posting on this forum. I even read about someone who had purchased a neck Invader and returned it to the seller after being unable to take a reading on a multimeter. The capacitor prevents this, at least in humbucker mode.

Would anyone know how strong the capacitor is? The lettering on the capacitor is 1K1 103.

103 is 10nF (nanofarads) = 0.01uF (microfarads), that is the capacitance, not really what I would call "strength".

*EDIT* Holy crap, I responded before I realized this thread was a zombie...

 

[allstarrme]

Re: What does the capacitor in the neck Invader do?

A unique solution; wonder why they didn't just brighten it by changing the wind, rather than adding a cap?

If you look at the wind of the invader neck, it is actually the same as the jazz neck, and the full shred neck, probably the A2p as well.

most of the early designs were just variations of another, the custom bridge, full shred bridge, distortion neck are all similar winds, with the distortion neck just being less winds. The distortion bridge, JB and invader bridge are all the same winds too, much different tones from each.

The real difference between all of these are the magnet type and the pole material. The invader neck is all muddy mids because of the cap head screws and ceramic magnet. rather than change the wind they added a cap to make it less muddy. look at the tone charts, same output resistance, much different tones and actual output.

I am not a fan of the invader neck, but put in some super distortion poles rather than cap heads and change the magnet for an A5 and you've got a full shred neck and thats a winner. adding a A2 would make it a clearer a2pro.

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: What does the capacitor in the neck Invader do?

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. It's almost a wonder each Duncan pickup didn't wind up just a different value cap on a similar wound bobbin

 

[thanaton]

Re: What does the capacitor in the neck Invader do?

If you look at the wind of the invader neck, it is actually the same as the jazz neck, and the full shred neck, probably the A2p as well.

most of the early designs were just variations of another, the custom bridge, full shred bridge, distortion neck are all similar winds, with the distortion neck just being less winds. The distortion bridge, JB and invader bridge are all the same winds too, much different tones from each.

The real difference between all of these are the magnet type and the pole material. The invader neck is all muddy mids because of the cap head screws and ceramic magnet. rather than change the wind they added a cap to make it less muddy. look at the tone charts, same output resistance, much different tones and actual output.

I am not a fan of the invader neck, but put in some super distortion poles rather than cap heads and change the magnet for an A5 and you've got a full shred neck and thats a winner. adding a A2 would make it a clearer a2pro.

Assuming those cap screws are steel, they would increase the inductance somewhat, so even if the coil was exactly the same as the Jazz, you still end up with something like a hotter wind. I'm not saying you don't know this already... just to clarify.

I'd bet the real reason for the muddy sound would be eddy current damping from those heads. That would have a more prominent effect on the tone than the bump in inductance. I've never heard an Invader neck pickup clean, but I can't imagine that damped pickup using a high pass cap to clean up the bass sounds all that wonderful.