What happened?

Re: What happened?

Funkfingers said:
According to post #13, the rattle occurs even with no pickups in the guitar. Thus, the problem is mechanical.

On a two-pivot vibrato, check the stud heights have not shifted while the strings were off.

There is a test that can be performed on the neck joint but I am reluctant to describe it here.

Final thought. Re-using the old strings can cause problems. Try a brand new set.
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The heights didn't change because my action was the same height as before but just with buzz and fretting out.

Please describe this test as it is the only thing I have left to do.
 
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If the nut, bridge, relief and neck pocket angle/tilt/shims are all exactly as before, then it sounds to me as if you've had a fret pop up a bit when you had the strings off. This is really hard to diagnose without seeing the guitar though.

Is the fretting out happening on every position, or can you isolate it to a particular area of the board? Does it stop after a partcular fret?

If you cant find the cause the best course of action is to take it in for a setup with a fret level and dress.
 
Re: What happened?

Steelrz13 said:
Please describe this test as it is the only thing I have left to do.
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The test involves applying pressure to confirm that the screwed-on neck is properly fastened in position. I am not going to post a description of the test here for two reasons;
1) It may not be the cause of the fret buzz.
2) I would hate to think of you accidentally damaging your guitar for the sake of saving the price of a professional set-up.
 
Re: What happened?

zakk_speed said:
If the nut, bridge, relief and neck pocket angle/tilt/shims are all exactly as before, then it sounds to me as if you've had a fret pop up a bit when you had the strings off. This is really hard to diagnose without seeing the guitar though.

Is the fretting out happening on every position, or can you isolate it to a particular area of the board? Does it stop after a partcular fret?

If you cant find the cause the best course of action is to take it in for a setup with a fret level and dress.
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It doesn't appear that a fret has popped out but I did notice the higher frets are really flat at the top. The fretting out happens at about the 12th and doesn't get better until the very last fret.
 
Re: What happened?

Steelrz13 said:
It doesn't appear that a fret has popped out but I did notice the higher frets are really flat at the top. The fretting out happens at about the 12th and doesn't get better until the very last fret.
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That would suggest a few things to me

1. Neck angle : if the neck is overshimmed/tilited or perhaps not seated correctly you would see this

Depending on how comfortable you are with setup, you should look at the neck pocket. If it were me, I'd loosen the strings and take the neck off and reseat it, being careful not to lose or drop any shims you find in there. If that doesn't work and if there are shims in there, remove one and reattach. That may help.

2. Truss rod not providing enough neck tension, causing the neck to have too much relief the middle...but given your frets are already low at the top this is an outside chance at best, and the buzzing would occur sooner than the 12th fret I think. Check it with a straight edge (not that daft method of fretting the string on the 1st and 12th frets)

3. The not so good news...the fact your frets are low at the top of the neck suggests to me someone may have adressed this problem in the past with a fret level, as higher frets dont normally wear before the lower ones. If the problem has suddenly worsened without any changes other than string tension that starts to suggest warping to me.....

All of this is mere internet conjecture without seeing the guitar though.

A tech wont charge that much to look at the guitar and assess the problem...that might be the best option.
 
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^ 1. last night I took the neck off and no I didn't find any shims or anything so I just simply put it back on. That was my first time ever doing that and if there is a problem with how the neck is seated I wouldn't even know how to seat it correctly. I think I might need to put a shim in there I may try that later.

2. My neck truss rod is set correctly

3. Honestly it may be warped it was left in a trunk over night then all day in the sun. I forgot about this and that could just be the reason.
 
Re: What happened?

Steelrz13 said:
3. Honestly it may be warped it was left in a trunk over night then all day in the sun. I forgot about this and that could just be the reason.
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That may very well be the problem right there. In fact i'd go as far as saying it almost certainly is.

You can check it by putting a straight-edge along the fretboard .... check each side and the centre. Then eyeball down the neck to see if it's twisted.

It could well be the case that the neck is beyond repair, or the cost would exceed the cost of getting a new neck. Leaving a guitar in a car overnight or on a hot day is almost a guarantee of ruining it permanently. It can be even worse for set-neck instruments.
 
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