astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
what would happen?
what would the function of the knob be?
what would the function of the knob be?
What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
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astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
I read someone on here say in another thread that it would function as a "splitter".
I read someone on here say in another thread that it would function as a "splitter".
John E Rokker
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Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
try it and see. I did, and didn't like it.
try it and see. I did, and didn't like it.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
It still works as a tone pot?
I think I'm just going to end up removing it.
all I have to do is snip the wire I marked here, right?
It still works as a tone pot?
I think I'm just going to end up removing it.
all I have to do is snip the wire I marked here, right?
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Andrew Lamprecht
Minion of One
Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
the tone knob doesn't work without a cap...
the tone knob doesn't work without a cap...
Andrew Lamprecht
Minion of One
Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
it's what darkens the sound... if there is no cap it's just a pot...
it's what darkens the sound... if there is no cap it's just a pot...
Roddy
New member
Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
that is essentially now disconnected
Andrew Lamprecht
Minion of One
Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
If you snip the wire there, you eliminate the tone pot from the circuit. Your signal will go directly from the vol pot to the output jack.
If you only want to disconnect the cap and leave the tone pot in the circuit without the cap, then snip the wire at the middle lug on the tone pot. Snip it right next to the lug (or disconnect using a soldering iron) in case you decide you want to solder it back in the circuit. Then you'll need to solder a wire connecting that middle lug to the back of the tone pot (you are essentially replacing the cap with a solid wire).
I think, however, that you will want to keep the cap. Try it and see what you like.
If you snip the wire there, you eliminate the tone pot from the circuit. Your signal will go directly from the vol pot to the output jack.
If you only want to disconnect the cap and leave the tone pot in the circuit without the cap, then snip the wire at the middle lug on the tone pot. Snip it right next to the lug (or disconnect using a soldering iron) in case you decide you want to solder it back in the circuit. Then you'll need to solder a wire connecting that middle lug to the back of the tone pot (you are essentially replacing the cap with a solid wire).
I think, however, that you will want to keep the cap. Try it and see what you like.
AudioWonderland
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Powdered Toast Man
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Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
It'd be the same as wiring your pickups directly to the output jack. There's been guitars wired this way - Fender's Tom Delong signature strat is just one pickup to one volume to the jack. No tone control.
Fender also puts a "no load" tone control pot on their current American Standards where it has a detent position at "full open" where it completely bypasses the tone cap. I've got an AS Tele and you do notice it when it's on or off - it's subtle, but when in the no load position it makes for a slightly brighter sound.
It'd be the same as wiring your pickups directly to the output jack. There's been guitars wired this way - Fender's Tom Delong signature strat is just one pickup to one volume to the jack. No tone control.
Fender also puts a "no load" tone control pot on their current American Standards where it has a detent position at "full open" where it completely bypasses the tone cap. I've got an AS Tele and you do notice it when it's on or off - it's subtle, but when in the no load position it makes for a slightly brighter sound.
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Funkfingers
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Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
A passive tone control pot is a variable low pass filter. The cut off frequency is determined by the value of the capacitor. The variable resistance (the pot) determines by how much of those frequencies are attenuated.
Without the capacitor, the pot is a straightforward, "all frequencies" volume control.
Snipping the connection highlighted in post #5 removes the tone control from circuit. The pot/cap combination remains a tone pot, just with nothing to filter.
A passive tone control pot is a variable low pass filter. The cut off frequency is determined by the value of the capacitor. The variable resistance (the pot) determines by how much of those frequencies are attenuated.
Without the capacitor, the pot is a straightforward, "all frequencies" volume control.
Snipping the connection highlighted in post #5 removes the tone control from circuit. The pot/cap combination remains a tone pot, just with nothing to filter.
devastone
Well-known member
Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
Look carefully, in that picture, if you snip the cap, it won't even function as a volume control, it's just an open circuit so it won't do anything. For it to be a volume control, the middle tab would have to go to ground.
Look carefully, in that picture, if you snip the cap, it won't even function as a volume control, it's just an open circuit so it won't do anything. For it to be a volume control, the middle tab would have to go to ground.
whatshisname
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Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
:banghead: This should have been over in one reply.
If you snip off the cap, it will disconnect the tone control.
:banghead: This should have been over in one reply.
If you snip off the cap, it will disconnect the tone control.
devastone
Well-known member
Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
There ya go, makin' it all simple and all... :scratchch
There ya go, makin' it all simple and all... :scratchch
devastone
Well-known member
Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
Yes, you did. Although, I really can't see the point in putting a wire in place of the cap. That would turn it into another volume pot, although when both "volume" pots are on full, it will look like a 250k volume pot so the tone would be a little darker, even with everything on 10.
But yeah, you were totally correct! :approve:
Yes, you did. Although, I really can't see the point in putting a wire in place of the cap. That would turn it into another volume pot, although when both "volume" pots are on full, it will look like a 250k volume pot so the tone would be a little darker, even with everything on 10.
But yeah, you were totally correct! :approve:
saladin
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Re: What If i remove the cap from my tone pot?
I just had a Squier John 5 Tele. 2 Volume knobs and no tone. Interesting thing is that by turning down the volume knob it actually acts as a tone filter of sorts, ie the tone gets darker as the volume is decreased. You might want to try this.
I just had a Squier John 5 Tele. 2 Volume knobs and no tone. Interesting thing is that by turning down the volume knob it actually acts as a tone filter of sorts, ie the tone gets darker as the volume is decreased. You might want to try this.
