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seafoamer
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Re: What is it about Gibson...
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What is it about Gibson...
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seafoamer
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Re: What is it about Gibson...
A Human!
A Human!
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seafoamer
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Re: What is it about Gibson...
a donut
a donut
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seafoamer
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Re: What is it about Gibson...
an iPod!
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an iPod!
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TheArchitect
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Re: What is it about Gibson...
Are you buying guitars or investing in IRA's? You would buy a guitar that is better "value" instead of what you want? How are you defining value? Buy the right instrument in the first place and it will never lose value because you will always have it.
Pecan said:
Are you buying guitars or investing in IRA's? You would buy a guitar that is better "value" instead of what you want? How are you defining value? Buy the right instrument in the first place and it will never lose value because you will always have it.
FretFire
SingedFingerologist
Re: What is it about Gibson...
Many people (myself included) would argue that buying the exact instrument you want is no waste of money. Why settle for something different just because it's cheaper? Exercise some self control and save up to get what you REALLY want. Chances are you'll just wind up getting it one day anyways, why waste the money you'll lose buying something else and selling it off for a loss down the road? If you buy something you truly want, you're less likely to sell it later so resale value isn't really much of a concern. Plus, Gibsons for example hold their value well
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Pecan said:
Many people (myself included) would argue that buying the exact instrument you want is no waste of money. Why settle for something different just because it's cheaper? Exercise some self control and save up to get what you REALLY want. Chances are you'll just wind up getting it one day anyways, why waste the money you'll lose buying something else and selling it off for a loss down the road? If you buy something you truly want, you're less likely to sell it later so resale value isn't really much of a concern. Plus, Gibsons for example hold their value well
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Tux789
Medicated Cryptologist
Re: What is it about Gibson...
a pencil
Hershey's Chololate
furniture
keyboard (on a computer/typewriter) layout
electricity
gravity
air
water
the sky
plants
underpants (except the thong)
weed
elevator music
math
doorknobs
bicycles
many parts of Ohio
the bible (im still waiting for ver 1.6)
the majority of the english language (fo shizzle)
toliet paper
socks
Raid bug spray
a hatred of communisim
fashions in footwear
wallets
coats
currency accepted in this country
capitol punishment
reguarding all germans as nazis for some reason
More things not changed since the fiftiesseafoamer said:
a pencil
Hershey's Chololate
furniture
keyboard (on a computer/typewriter) layout
electricity
gravity
air
water
the sky
plants
underpants (except the thong)
weed
elevator music
math
doorknobs
bicycles
many parts of Ohio
the bible (im still waiting for ver 1.6)
the majority of the english language (fo shizzle)
toliet paper
socks
Raid bug spray
a hatred of communisim
fashions in footwear
wallets
coats
currency accepted in this country
capitol punishment
reguarding all germans as nazis for some reason
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TheArchitect
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Re: What is it about Gibson...
Then there is no better value than the top shelp stuff. How can you define value on something you don't have knowledge of like the quality of the wood used or what the labor rates are?? Its cheap to make stuff look good. Its expensive to in fact have it be good.
Pecan said:
Then there is no better value than the top shelp stuff. How can you define value on something you don't have knowledge of like the quality of the wood used or what the labor rates are?? Its cheap to make stuff look good. Its expensive to in fact have it be good.
DesertRose
New member
Re: What is it about Gibson...
i thought I was almost faithful to Gibson
heh ...
i thought I was almost faithful to Gibson
heh ...
Re: What is it about Gibson...
i'll take any modern design guitar (with my on weird tweaks) over a classic design anyday, but I still don't think anyone should pay $1000s for work that isn't absolutely perfect. I don't ever try Gibsons since it isn't really where I am at now, but there are lots of people eho love them- they deserve to get that 'history and quality' that the name commands.
i'll take any modern design guitar (with my on weird tweaks) over a classic design anyday, but I still don't think anyone should pay $1000s for work that isn't absolutely perfect. I don't ever try Gibsons since it isn't really where I am at now, but there are lots of people eho love them- they deserve to get that 'history and quality' that the name commands.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: What is it about Gibson...
No matter what is said about Gibson, a great playing Gibson really has the tone that I like moreso than other humbucking guitars. No matter what humbucking guitar I buy, I'd still rate the Gibsons over them. I think the best era, besides the 50's was the mid 90's (what's commonly referred to as the good wood era).
It's no coincidence that many of the experienced players still gravitate toward Gibsons and Fenders, and it's not a nostalgia thing......they just hit the nail on the head for most players. PRS, Taylor, Jackson, Anderson, B. Moore, and others are covering a lot of ground that Gibson and Fender doesn't, but the main issue is wood and setup. That said, I still think Gibsons are great guitars, but there's definitely a 'chink in the chain' and it has the most to do with the monkeys they're hiring to do the final setup. An axe needs to fall on those heads, and the problem will be solved, for the most part. If you want to charge $2000+ for a guitar, you can't be neglecting the final stage, especially when the competition ISN'T.
I love Gibson, and want to continue to stand behind them, but the fact is......I went into a store and pulled a lot of them off the wall, and what I saw was not acceptable. They need to spend more time addressing that issue, rather than starting a marketing plan that includes Costco.
No matter what is said about Gibson, a great playing Gibson really has the tone that I like moreso than other humbucking guitars. No matter what humbucking guitar I buy, I'd still rate the Gibsons over them. I think the best era, besides the 50's was the mid 90's (what's commonly referred to as the good wood era).
It's no coincidence that many of the experienced players still gravitate toward Gibsons and Fenders, and it's not a nostalgia thing......they just hit the nail on the head for most players. PRS, Taylor, Jackson, Anderson, B. Moore, and others are covering a lot of ground that Gibson and Fender doesn't, but the main issue is wood and setup. That said, I still think Gibsons are great guitars, but there's definitely a 'chink in the chain' and it has the most to do with the monkeys they're hiring to do the final setup. An axe needs to fall on those heads, and the problem will be solved, for the most part. If you want to charge $2000+ for a guitar, you can't be neglecting the final stage, especially when the competition ISN'T.
I love Gibson, and want to continue to stand behind them, but the fact is......I went into a store and pulled a lot of them off the wall, and what I saw was not acceptable. They need to spend more time addressing that issue, rather than starting a marketing plan that includes Costco.
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Skarekrough
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Re: What is it about Gibson...
I can't defend them and I can't knock them. They are what they are.
The QC is an irrelevant topic. Gibson has put in the years and survived long enough and done what they've done and obviously earned the credit to put out what some would easily consider sub-par.
What I think is something rarely spoken about is how we seem to be more willing to speak ill of a brand after limited experience with them. I played a 2005 Historic that was sloppy; glue on the frets, certainly not what I would consider on par for the 2 plus grand they wanted for it.
However, by no means do I define the entire offering from the company by that guitar. I know the negative stories get told a whole lot more than the positive ones or the ones where the QC was of a level that would be considered acceptable.
The company, I give them credit, are doing things their own way and I honestly think they have a larger plan in mind that once they finally get to completing it will be light years ahead of anyone else. I think they've just seen the writing on the wall before any of us have really gotten a chance to put on our reading glasses.
Gibson's devotees are exceptionally outspoken. I can't think of a single company that gets slammed harder by their biggest fanatics whenever they do something new and different. The lack of variation in the line is a testament to it; do ANYTHING different or potentially cater to a different market with a design and they catch the brunt of it in a way no one else does. Even when Fender put humbuckers into Strats there was NOWHERE near as much outrage as when Gibson did the "Gothic" series.
With that said I own a 73 Deluxe that I bought a few years ago as a treat to myself. I'd played a handfull of new ones and decided that for the money I could find something from the dreaded Norlins area that sounded and played great and had the mojo already in it.
I also own two Japanese clones (Grecos) for the simple reason that after paying for one Gibson, I can't justify that sort of bread for my own collection. I have two Custom clones and they're amazing instruments. I love playing them out simply because I have nowhere near the amount of worry if something should happen to them.
These threads do seem to crop up in cycles though...eh?
I can't defend them and I can't knock them. They are what they are.
The QC is an irrelevant topic. Gibson has put in the years and survived long enough and done what they've done and obviously earned the credit to put out what some would easily consider sub-par.
What I think is something rarely spoken about is how we seem to be more willing to speak ill of a brand after limited experience with them. I played a 2005 Historic that was sloppy; glue on the frets, certainly not what I would consider on par for the 2 plus grand they wanted for it.
However, by no means do I define the entire offering from the company by that guitar. I know the negative stories get told a whole lot more than the positive ones or the ones where the QC was of a level that would be considered acceptable.
The company, I give them credit, are doing things their own way and I honestly think they have a larger plan in mind that once they finally get to completing it will be light years ahead of anyone else. I think they've just seen the writing on the wall before any of us have really gotten a chance to put on our reading glasses.
Gibson's devotees are exceptionally outspoken. I can't think of a single company that gets slammed harder by their biggest fanatics whenever they do something new and different. The lack of variation in the line is a testament to it; do ANYTHING different or potentially cater to a different market with a design and they catch the brunt of it in a way no one else does. Even when Fender put humbuckers into Strats there was NOWHERE near as much outrage as when Gibson did the "Gothic" series.
With that said I own a 73 Deluxe that I bought a few years ago as a treat to myself. I'd played a handfull of new ones and decided that for the money I could find something from the dreaded Norlins area that sounded and played great and had the mojo already in it.
I also own two Japanese clones (Grecos) for the simple reason that after paying for one Gibson, I can't justify that sort of bread for my own collection. I have two Custom clones and they're amazing instruments. I love playing them out simply because I have nowhere near the amount of worry if something should happen to them.
These threads do seem to crop up in cycles though...eh?
JB_From_Hell
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Re: What is it about Gibson...
Seems like you're not cool around here until you buy a $3000 guitar that looks sloppy next to a $300 Indonesian import.FretFire said:
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Skarekrough
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Re: What is it about Gibson...
For 3 grand the only name that better be on that axe is mine....
JB_From_Hell said:
For 3 grand the only name that better be on that axe is mine....