What is the "best" VH1 in a box dirt box?
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superpete
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Re: What is the "best" VH1 in a box dirt box?
i found the mad professor 1 to be the best...it is a one trick pony, but it's the trick you're trying to pull off. i own a be-od and used the pinnacle a lot, along with almost every hot plexi/brown sound pedal i came across, and the mad professor just did it for me the most. i love that pedal.
i found the mad professor 1 to be the best...it is a one trick pony, but it's the trick you're trying to pull off. i own a be-od and used the pinnacle a lot, along with almost every hot plexi/brown sound pedal i came across, and the mad professor just did it for me the most. i love that pedal.
ehdwuld
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Re: What is the "best" VH1 in a box dirt box?
https://reverb.com/item/15135794-mo...0.jUqUn03vds1BzOFY-UGmu9OWm6ZWnSqUtf7HdMrD6VA
This Canadian guy has one on Reverb
https://reverb.com/item/15135794-mo...0.jUqUn03vds1BzOFY-UGmu9OWm6ZWnSqUtf7HdMrD6VA
This Canadian guy has one on Reverb
LLL
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Re: What is the "best" VH1 in a box dirt box?
Gory details aside (or, a 'distilled" run-down), VH1 tone is the following components:
1) Strat w/SD Custom
2) Hot Plexi-type distortion w/slight midrange scoop
3) One quiet (very low in volume) 360ms delay repeat
4) MXR Phase 90 for solos
5) Plate reverb
The plate reverb (which was hard panned R) is a huge part of the guitar tone on the album... and there was a lot of it.
The trick to getting Ed's guitar tone so clear with all of that reverb wash was the creative panning and pre-delay... 100% dry guitar
tone on the L, 100% reverb wash (pre-delayed ~100ms) on the right.
Doing this created the separation between dry and verbed signal, so everything was clear and not lost in reverb wash.
Like so (my guitar, real backing track):
Gory details aside (or, a 'distilled" run-down), VH1 tone is the following components:
1) Strat w/SD Custom
2) Hot Plexi-type distortion w/slight midrange scoop
3) One quiet (very low in volume) 360ms delay repeat
4) MXR Phase 90 for solos
5) Plate reverb
The plate reverb (which was hard panned R) is a huge part of the guitar tone on the album... and there was a lot of it.
The trick to getting Ed's guitar tone so clear with all of that reverb wash was the creative panning and pre-delay... 100% dry guitar
tone on the L, 100% reverb wash (pre-delayed ~100ms) on the right.
Doing this created the separation between dry and verbed signal, so everything was clear and not lost in reverb wash.
Like so (my guitar, real backing track):
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The Dali
MeltedClockologist
Re: What is the "best" VH1 in a box dirt box?
Yeah got mine used on reverb.
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Yeah got mine used on reverb.
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LLL
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Re: What is the "best" VH1 in a box dirt box?
On the contrary; I stated the actual gear used on the album... and said that one stomp cannot do all that.
There is no one stompbox solution to get VH1 album tone.
However, the "tonal components" are all listed, so whomever is looking for authentic tone can utilize whatever devices are at their disposal to get as close as possible.
And provided my own live rig as an example.
On the contrary; I stated the actual gear used on the album... and said that one stomp cannot do all that.
There is no one stompbox solution to get VH1 album tone.
However, the "tonal components" are all listed, so whomever is looking for authentic tone can utilize whatever devices are at their disposal to get as close as possible.
And provided my own live rig as an example.
devastone
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Re: What is the "best" VH1 in a box dirt box?
They are both a variation on the BSIAB, as are a lot of the amp-in-a-box pedals out there.
They are both a variation on the BSIAB, as are a lot of the amp-in-a-box pedals out there.
Aceman
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Re: What is the "best" VH1 in a box dirt box?
You guys really need to work on your English capabilities....
I asked for a VH 1 DIRT box.
I didn't ask for a Flanger, nor Phaser
I didn't ask for your live rig
I didn't ask for archival footage
I didn't even want the reverb...but more prevalent across the album than other other sound at least
I wanted the "best" one. So if that was 50%, so be it. I did not specify that it be within 99.999% tolerances of being indistinguishable from the original. I also even capitulated TWO pedals...just in case someone had a Reverb, or Delay Reverb, or Phase/Flange or what er. So, while that information is interesting, the only "rig" answer that is even close is Pete. Why? Because he used a Mad Professor Pedal, which is a darn tootin' great answer. I had forgot about that.
You can argue why your answer is better, but it is not what I asked, or even wanted, or anything didn't already know.
You guys really need to work on your English capabilities....
I asked for a VH 1 DIRT box.
I didn't ask for a Flanger, nor Phaser
I didn't ask for your live rig
I didn't ask for archival footage
I didn't even want the reverb...but more prevalent across the album than other other sound at least
I wanted the "best" one. So if that was 50%, so be it. I did not specify that it be within 99.999% tolerances of being indistinguishable from the original. I also even capitulated TWO pedals...just in case someone had a Reverb, or Delay Reverb, or Phase/Flange or what er. So, while that information is interesting, the only "rig" answer that is even close is Pete. Why? Because he used a Mad Professor Pedal, which is a darn tootin' great answer. I had forgot about that.
You can argue why your answer is better, but it is not what I asked, or even wanted, or anything didn't already know.
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LLL
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Re: What is the "best" VH1 in a box dirt box?
I went, as I typically do, miles above and beyond a simplistic answer. Because of my thoroughness, experience, as well as showing as many considerations as possible, to my knowledge. I am an encyclopedia and an archivist.
In layman's terms: I'm serious about tone; I don't **** around.
Don't you have an amp that gets a similar facsimile of VH1 distortion? I posted the actual dry tone coming off of Ed's amp in the studio...
I went, as I typically do, miles above and beyond a simplistic answer. Because of my thoroughness, experience, as well as showing as many considerations as possible, to my knowledge. I am an encyclopedia and an archivist.
In layman's terms: I'm serious about tone; I don't **** around.
Don't you have an amp that gets a similar facsimile of VH1 distortion? I posted the actual dry tone coming off of Ed's amp in the studio...
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: What is the "best" VH1 in a box dirt box?
My Mesa, using;
The Tube rectifier, the spongy setting, and the Fluid gain (even though distinctly Non-Marshall inherently) is a killer "Brown sound"
However...that's a lot of knob/switch hassle. I'd like to run a Pedal or three straight into my Peavey express and play Runnin' or Eruption, or whatever....
I do not take this particular tone seriously. Ergo - I'll take it in a box, to go...
My Mesa, using;
The Tube rectifier, the spongy setting, and the Fluid gain (even though distinctly Non-Marshall inherently) is a killer "Brown sound"
However...that's a lot of knob/switch hassle. I'd like to run a Pedal or three straight into my Peavey express and play Runnin' or Eruption, or whatever....
I do not take this particular tone seriously. Ergo - I'll take it in a box, to go...
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JMP/HBE
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Re: What is the "best" VH1 in a box dirt box?
Van Halen tone is guitar rock 101 and the easiest thing on the planet to achieve. FWIW after a fatty & a few drinks nobody knows what you're playing anyway.
**** Posts question on public forum then acts shocked & appalled when public responds. Well dude why don't you try Google or youtube/ What makes you think people here are going to know WTYF you want. You're suppose to figure that out on your own.
Van Halen tone is guitar rock 101 and the easiest thing on the planet to achieve. FWIW after a fatty & a few drinks nobody knows what you're playing anyway.
