What is the deal with Line6 amps... some like them and some hate them... what gives?

Re: What is the deal with Line6 amps... some like them and some hate them... what giv

I think I can put it into better words to fully explain why I don't prefer Modelers over the real thing or anything honestly.
For the sheer hell of it , I decided to build a Marshall Patch on my Boss Gt-10. I wanted to get close to a Warren Di Martini tone and I figured this would be a great place to start and add some delay in the back ground like he did a lot.
I got a very good sounding 80's metal tone and away I went. For the record I'm wired in the 4 cable method so when I'm using Modelers , I'm completely bypassing my amps preamp sections and going directly to the return of the effects which goes right to the amp section.
I was playing "Wanted Man" by Ratt and was screwing around with the different parts , clean and driven. I modeled a clean tone with a JC120 , Chorus , Delay and a touch of Reverb to get this very spacey cool clean tone. I have a patch like that but with my amps preamp section and I moved this patch next to the Modeled JC120. What I learned right away with a side by side is "PICKING DYNAMICS". This is what stood out the most. The JC120 clean tone when you turn off all effects is very clean and clear with a touch of digital sound to it but not to the point of being Un useful. So what I did was play a riff on my amps preamp clean then on the modeled JC120 , SPL levels where exact when strumming normal but what changed was when I picked harder , the JC120 didn't jump out and give me much higher SPL levels , the preamp in my amp jumped out liked I just Kranked up the volume (No pun Intended ok that's a lie LOL) I was amazed on how the Modeler was restricking dynamic range. Side note here I'm a very dynamic picker. I use picking dynamics all the time. It's just a part of my playing and it's what doesn't shine through with modelers. I tried a few other patches like my Marshall 80's patch and it's the same thing , the Dynamics are just not there like my amp by itself .

So with all that has been said about modelers and the ups and downs , I firmly believe this is what makes me feel unhappy with using them.
 
Re: What is the deal with Line6 amps... some like them and some hate them... what giv

ya, if I get a house, I would wanna start digging like a subterranean fort, so I could make a giant isolation cab and have various microphones running from underground to my computer

...but it ain't happening ;) iso cabs etc are way too loud for a small apartment!
 
Re: What is the deal with Line6 amps... some like them and some hate them... what giv

"some like them and some hate them"


This could be said of most amps. I'm no L6 fanboy after owning bunches of their products but there are haters on every brand who will find some justification for their position.
 
Re: What is the deal with Line6 amps... some like them and some hate them... what giv

I'm in a band that plays anything from jazz, funk, rock, disco etc... George Benson, AC/DC, Stevie Wonder, Nile Rodgers (Chic), and so on. I'm using an Epiphone Dot with the SH-1 59' blues set (neck & bridge). I'm playing out of a Peavey Deuce and also have a Marshall Valvestate 8080.

I'm looking for an all around amp that can "do it all". I've been looking at Line6 and have been reading various threads / comments regarding Line6. It seems that some people like them and a whole lot of folks despise them.

I've never really found a specific reason though why people don't like them. They mostly state that the Line6 models are junk. Does anyone have any insight to these amps?

I'm also not trying to spend crazy money.

Thanks in advance,

Steve

Steve... I don't know why these Line 6 haters are the way they are I have three rigs that I use. 1) Spider Valve HD 100 with Mk 2 shortboard.. very versital and sounds great!!!! through my 412 2) Spider IV 75 112 with the very same mk 2 shortboard and same amp setting tweaked to match the big rig for smaller venues and practice.. that way I can practice with what I play with and save the valves... 3) Mesa Boogie NoMad 45 212 paired with an Ear Candy Cabs ported 212 and with no pedals added... used for any gig I don't have to be too versatile at (effects pedals and stuff wise) and don't need to carry super high stage volume and want to show off my old killer gear. All these rigs sound excellent or I would not be using them. It took a lot of time to get to know each one and what made them cook. I choose to use the Line 6 gear first not because it sounds exactly like a Big Marshall or Vox or boogie but because they are plenty close. And they sound great! Your choices of great usable tones and repeatable saved tones is immense. You can setup banks of 4 channels for use with different guitars (Les Paul to Strat or something with some Active EMG's) in cases like you may like to switch things up or want to be close for a different/backup guitar. I have found that All my Line 6 gear is reliable as not a single piece has ever failed me. It sounds to me you should at least weather the Valve elitist and modeling bashers to check it out for yourself. I do recommend if you walk down this path you get the MK2 Shortboard with your amp as it makes everything so simple to control right at your mic stand. You know as long as you are doing covers you will need this kind of versatility and repeat-ability. Also I must say that is most cases I found the amp models needed to have the channel volume lowered to put the master volume at a less sensitive level to make it easy to control your stage volume. Good luck and let your ear choose your gear not someone else trying to be snobbish... http://line6.com/spidervalvemkii/
http://line6.com/spideriv75-120-150-hd150/
 
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