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If only the tube amp world was as diverse as the pedal world today. I mean, there are more now than before of course, but still seems something's lacking.
Plus, the more competition, the lower the prices in general.
What is this about? Duncan 805 new, old-stock pedal, Rev 000, original version.
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If only the tube amp world was as diverse as the pedal world today. I mean, there are more now than before of course, but still seems something's lacking.
Plus, the more competition, the lower the prices in general.
So when are they making a cosmetically tolerable looking/colored pedal with easier to see and fiddle with controls so this pedal will get into the hands of more people who would love it and bring it the respect and credibility that it deserves? Asking for a friend...
You may not b the market. Best to select something else.
Now that is just crazy talk...lol. A willing consumer with the means to purchase should always be "the market" for a product sell.
lol...I have never doubted the pedal's sound and or quality. In fact, I have said good things about the pedal numerous times. I have doubted how hideous it looks and am not a fan of the small knob options. Who said I buy with my eyes? If a product is quality and I have a need for it I buy it. If I have no need for it and have countless other similar products that do the job I can afford to be more selective if I should choose to do so. The funny thing is, you keep wanting to go at me for having an opinion about the cosmetics of this particular pedal. I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE OUT THERE WITH THIS OPINION. Am I correct in how I read your initial attempted zing towards me in your admission that the pedal sounds good but looks bad? If so, we are much more alike than you would ever care to admit.
I am sure Fender does well on the sea foam color type guitars.
My point is, your gripes had nothing to do with the sound of the actual pedals. As much as there are players who buy pedals based on looks only, there is a segment that only cares about sound, too. To me, every pedal, no matter who makes it, is a judgement call as far as looks. But personally, I decide if it makes my board by how it sounds. That is a different kind of player than someone who collects cool-looking pedals.
IMO they didn't really get the looks or name wrong at all for what they decided to shoot for from a marketing perspective. I'd speculate it's sales are about the best for the SD pedal line. (?)
Having said that, I think they should have taken a two-tiered approach and also released a solid-color(no stripes) acid-green w/bright orange lettering and all 6 the same medium-size knobs instead of big/little. Call it "The Accelerant" overdrive and eventually add another knob that seats the center of the mid-band +- control.
Having said that, I think they should have taken a two-tiered approach and also released a solid-color(no stripes) acid-green w/bright orange lettering and all 6 the same medium-size knobs instead of big/little. Call it "The Accelerant" overdrive and eventually add another knob that seats the center of the mid-band +- control.
80's_Thrash_Metal
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Funny I've been hunting overdrive pedals again on reverb all night. (Insomnia)
I finally closed that browser window... In my head I'm saying "you've already got a great sounding few OD pedals that you love ..why buy more?"
Then I saw this thread, down the rabbit hole I go.
Just ordered my first SD pedal.
Thanks a lot Bob!
I'll give y'all my thoughts on it whenever it shows up.
And since I am that metal guy, I will spray paint this thing flat black or something... Because surf green will simply not work for me.
I finally closed that browser window... In my head I'm saying "you've already got a great sounding few OD pedals that you love ..why buy more?"
Then I saw this thread, down the rabbit hole I go.
Just ordered my first SD pedal.
Thanks a lot Bob!
I'll give y'all my thoughts on it whenever it shows up.
And since I am that metal guy, I will spray paint this thing flat black or something... Because surf green will simply not work for me.
You prove my point again and again and yes I agree all purchases are essentially a judgement call on anything we buy. The issue I continue trying to shine a light on is a great pedal only catering to a select market based on color on cosmetics. The other issue is ease of use with the different knob size. That is a problem for some people in different situations. Now hold that thought and stay with me here as I switch gears to try and bring two things together.
When a consumer has a metric sh1t ton of pedal options when they walk into a store or look online the 805 is going to often get overlooked for potentially 2 reasons. 1) The aesthetic is geared towards a certain theme and sound. It looks beach boyish, route 66ish, Margaritaville-ish, touristy and that isn't what it is about though maybe could be. The pedal is easy to prejudge. 2) The pedal is made by what is known worldwide as a very successful pickup maker. That (in smaller instances) could potentially hurt sales because for some reason, people don't cross brand much and that is a shame. Wampler makes pedals and amps. Mad Professor makes pedals and amps yet both companies sell no amps and are known for being pedal makers. So back to my point. A consumer who isn't super aware of what is available to them OR has option paralysis may easily miss out on a wonderful pedal because of aesthetic unless your local GC rep has the wherewithal to turn them onto a hip pedal (which is doubtful across the board). It doesn't need to be "metal" looking but it does need to be appealing cosmetically to the mass market which includes the metal market as those types use the pedal type in question to boost amps. It also needs to be functional and easy to manipulate/navigate and other pedals (depending on pedal) have easier to adjust knobs and that could be a benefit to some. Heck, make the pedal more neutral cosmetically so that it doesn't get prejudged and that will help.
Now putting this all together if people can get pretty much the same tone from another product that doesn't clash with their pedalboard or pedal theme, etc the consumer very well may go a different direction. It is very common for companies to release the same pedal in various colors and or do limited runs, etc. There are so many options available to buyers now a days it is ridiculous. It is too much IMO but that said, each pedal company has to place themselves in the game to play the game. Maybe mass sales and appeal isn't the end game on this pedal. If so, that is ok. I just know this pedal could go much farther than it is (because it is a great pedal) if a couple things were addressed.
Old school players will use what works for them regardless. I am far more like that then you think I am but that player has to know about the product and what it can do and that may be where people get hung up on a pickup company making a pedal. It isn't fair but we all know it happens.
1) I never said it doesn't sell.
2) Don't get so lost in your hard numbers that you think you have reached the pinnacle. Customer opinion is just that and it also matters (or should in some way) to the manufacturer. Its a good pedal, I just wish it sold more.
3) 10 and 100000000 still have two distinct numbers in the equation though their overall values are quite different.
4) Clearly customer feedback and simple dialogue isn't something of interest.
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Exactly my point several posts earlier.
Of course some pedals sell, but they could be selling a lot more with brand diversification (my Proctor & Gamble example).
People are wired for stupidity and most are followers, not leaders.
Being popular is far more important than actual quality or tone. Being part of the crowd who buys "x" brand counts, etc
With so many choices available, it is hard not to follow the marketing dollars if you aren't immersed in the day to day world of gear. There is always something new being released, etc. Social Media doesn't help aside from adding to the confusion. Don't get me wrong, I often times enjoy the options and we have more than ever before but it can get daunting. How many pedals, delays, reverbs, overdrives, etc does a person really need? I like trying things out but I have way more than I need.
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I actually love the looks. The problem is the cramming of input output jacks and DC jack on one side, and the ridiculous price.
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