What key am I in?

[danglybanger]

Maybe I'm too drunk to figure it out, but I really don't think that's the case... Anyways, I wrote some weird dissonant thing... it sounds alright, but I can't seem to really figure out what the **** key I'm in... It's almost C, but there's a G# added in to muck things up. It sounds good anyways, I think.

Anyways, chords are:

0-----3------------
0--6--0--0--------1
9--5--0--4--5--4--0
9--6--2--3--3--3--2
7--5--3--3--3--3--3
8--------4--3--3--3

So the notes are bcdefgg#, and it seems like an a would fit in there nicely too... in other words, this makes no ****ing sense to me :laugh2:

I'm sure it's something exotic with a weird name. Or maybe I just made something that's not supposed to sound good. but I like it

thanks,

Slade

 

[larry_emder]

Re: What key am I in?

Alright, for the most part you will be playing in C maj - apart from the 2nd + 4th chord (G# maj min 6?? I'm guna have to look up that chord) where you will substitute the G for G#.

You may want to include the G# in the whole piece when you are soloing - A lot of people use the #5 note when they are soloing over a maj chord.

So the chords were:

* Cmaj7
* D min7b5
* C maj 7 (!!!)
* Undecided as of yet
* C sus something (dont know exactly what its called, but its a C maj kinda chord - with 4th instead of 3rd)
* C maj

 

[danglybanger]

Re: What key am I in?

heh, thanks for that, I never think of what my chords are called before I invent them

But isn't the 3rd chord some kind of C chord? I tacked the g on the end of it, I also played it alot like the Cmaj7...
0
8
0
9
7
8

And technically I guess the last C maj would be a Cmaj/g, but whatever

Anyways... so it's ok to do that? Have something that flip flops between scale? God. I think I sound like a n00b

Slade

 

[larry_emder]

Re: What key am I in?

Sorry, you are right - its a cmaj7 chord again

As for whether its 'ok' to change keys.....well thats totally upto you. If it sounds good then it is good

 

[davedvdy]

Re: What key am I in?

The 6th one, I guess would be a Csus4(Maj7) ? I think if possible?? ,

The 4th chord in that, you really created something, lol

Ab C Bb B so... Ab2(omit 5, add#2)?? :laugh2:

 

[davedvdy]

Re: What key am I in?

I never addressed your original question. You could technically be in a few different ones, and choose one, since you are violating every key signature w/using notes outside the Major keys (like Jazz does).

I would say possibly C Major or Ab Major

 

[StrangeSound]

Re: What key am I in?

The scale is called "harmonic major" I guess. It would be the C harmonic major scale.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_major_scale

Didn't know 'bout that scale But it sounds good, great for bossa nova styles you're aiming for I think.

 

[danglybanger]

Re: What key am I in?

The scale is called "harmonic major" I guess. It would be the C harmonic major scale.

heh wow that works It actually has a name :laugh2: but yes, it does work well with that bossa nova er... d min7b5 that I threw in there

thanks!

Ab2(omit 5, add#2)??

violating every key signature w/using notes outside the Major keys

that just makes me feel so unorthodox and amazing :laugh2: from now on that's called the SLADE chord

Slade

 

[davedvdy]

Re: What key am I in?

The scale is called "harmonic major" I guess. It would be the C harmonic major scale.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_major_scale

In common music, there isn't a key signature for that, if that is a harmonic major scale, that is all that it is. I guess the key signature would still remain at C Major.

that just makes me feel so unorthodox and amazing from now on that's called the SLADE chord

Yeah, pretty cool...I've never seen that chord before in music, and I've seen some lengthy ones before, lol.

 

[Sleeping Martyr]

Re: What key am I in?

My vote for that fourth chord is: F minor(add b fifth) in I guess the third inversion. So a minor iv chord would almost put this in Cminor. BUT everything else is C major. You really came up with your thing here Slade:smokin:

 

[CapoFirstFret]

Re: What key am I in?

alright here we go...

CM7 Dm7b5 CM7 F11#9 Fadd9 F11 C

That's the progression as best I can read it, and you're definitely modal. Obviously in some of these chords, I took some liberties as to add in some tones that are missing since most of these chords can't be named by the notes that are present alone.

All this kinda depends on your bass note too though, the bass player will really determine what the chords are called

You switch between the keys of C major and C Ionian #5 which is the third scale degree of the harmonic minor scale.

 

[CapoFirstFret]

Re: What key am I in?

There's no Bb in Fm (add b5) you lose :laugh2:

Actually, the b5 of Fm would be Cb, also known as B

 

[davedvdy]

Re: What key am I in?

Actually, the b5 of Fm would be Cb, also known as B

Edit: you're right, there is no Bb, so that is correct!

 

[CapoFirstFret]

Re: What key am I in?

I still say the 4th chord is an F11#9 the #9 is the G# and the 11 is the Bb

 

[davedvdy]

Re: What key am I in?

Yeah, I had to voice the chord on the guitar, otherwise, I got the note confused. I thought there was a Bb in there, w/the B. That is correct.

 

[davedvdy]

Re: What key am I in?

I still say the 4th chord is an F11#9 the #9 is the G# and the 11 is the Bb

There is no Bb, I was wrong. There isn't a 4th or b7 in there, so it can't be an 11.

In order for it to be an 11, an Eb aka - dominant 7 or b7 w/the 4th.

The chord is the same as an Fm(add b5) as Sleeping Martyr said.

That is actually funny, we both thought there was a Bb in there, I tried correcting you to PUT a Bb in there, and there wasn't one in the original Tab. :laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[CapoFirstFret]

Re: What key am I in?

There is no Bb, I was wrong. There isn't a 4th or b7 in there, so it can't be an 11.

In order for it to be an 11, an Eb aka - dominant 7 or b7 w/the 4th.

The chord is the same as an Fm(add b5) as Sleeping Martyr said.

That is actually funny, we both thought there was a Bb in there, I tried correcting you to PUT a Bb in there, and there wasn't one in the original Tab. :laugh2: :laugh2:

I miffed that one, that was a negligence on my part. It's still not an F minor chord at all, and like I said I am taking some liberties by adding notes that aren't there. The guitar is a very limited instrument as far as chords go and very often notes are left out because of logistic issues.

The notes of the chord are G# C F B(Cb) which still doesn't give an F minor chord. But what the notes that are present could give you is a CM+11 chord which is C E F G# B (note the missing third of the chord), which would definitely add to the C tonality.

Other chord possibilities include a G13b9 ((G) B (D) F Ab C (E)) The (x) are notes that aren't present in the chord, which would make this an implied harmony. Also a Bdim9..a very odd chord

Which all this goes to say, naming those chords, is a matter of context and direction and personal preference. The keys though remain the same. You're in the key of C major, and drift just a little to the key of C Ionian #5

 

[cream123]

Re: What key am I in?

you know what the funny thing is?



all of this shoots way over my head

 

[davedvdy]

Re: What key am I in?

I miffed that one, that was a negligence on my part. It's still not an F minor chord at all, and like I said I am taking some liberties by adding notes that aren't there. The guitar is a very limited instrument as far as chords go and very often notes are left out because of logistic issues.

The notes of the chord are G# C F B(Cb) which still doesn't give an F minor chord. But what the notes that are present could give you is a CM+11 chord which is C E F G# B (note the missing third of the chord), which would definitely add to the C tonality.

Other chord possibilities include a G13b9 ((G) B (D) F Ab C (E)) The (x) are notes that aren't present in the chord, which would make this an implied harmony. Also a Bdim9..a very odd chord

Which all this goes to say, naming those chords, is a matter of context and direction and personal preference. The keys though remain the same. You're in the key of C major, and drift just a little to the key of C Ionian #5

Unsure if that is correct, because I believe I heard that you don't need to be technically accurate for chords, just when spelling chordnotes on the Treble Clef. What I named WOULD be an Fminor inverted add the b5.

G13(b9) I would think would be incorrect. Why would you omit the note that you are spelling? If any guitar player had just the lead sheet, the last thing they would omit is the 13, (E) That is like saying G7 and someone will invisibly know to think (no b7). "Implied" is that a 13 exists, cause it says so. The only time I have seen chord notes ommitted is w/the Piano. There is also no G in the chord, so I don't know where you are coming up with naming something with a root note that isn't in there.

Bdim9 is also incorrect. There is no D in the chord Dangly spelled. Bdim9 is also incorrect spelling, that would be a Bdim7(b9) so it becomes a flat 9 of major 9, because you are not using A which is the domainant 7 or b7 of B, you are using G#. It's still wrong w/the correct spelling.

 

[CapoFirstFret]

Re: What key am I in?

Unsure if that is correct, because I believe I heard that you don't need to be technically accurate for chords, just when spelling chordnotes on the Treble Clef. What I named WOULD be an Fminor inverted add the b5.

G13(b9) I would think would be incorrect. Why would you omit the note that you are spelling? If any guitar player had just the lead sheet, the last thing they would omit is the 13, (E) That is like saying G7 and someone will invisibly know to think (no b7). "Implied" is that a 13 exists, cause it says so. The only time I have seen chord notes ommitted is w/the Piano. There is also no G in the chord, so I don't know where you are coming up with naming something with a root note that isn't in there.

Bdim9 is also incorrect. There is no D in the chord Dangly spelled. Bdim9 is also incorrect spelling, that would be a Bdim7(b9) so it becomes a flat 9 of major 9, because you are not using A which is the domainant 7 or b7 of B, you are using G#. It's still wrong w/the correct spelling.

Ok, the 13 was wrong because I, in my head, put an E in there and realized it, went back and put it in (x) and forgot to just change the name of the chord. As far as the Bdim goes, a Bdim7 *DOES* have an Ab(G#). A B half-dim7 has an A.