What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

[audiocheck]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

The 59n might actually be a better match.

I have been struggling with the demon for a couple of years in Les Pauls. I love it as a bridge pickup, only problem is getting a neck pickup that doesn't disappear in the mix when switching off the Demon.

I did the Demon / Jazz neck combo and the Jazz did not stand up.
I settled on a Demon / Demon for a while and put in shorter pole pieces in the screw coil for the neck
Many have said to try the Full Shred neck and I want to try that.

You have to remember that Lynch's typical setup is to have the Demon with a neck single coil!!

So maybe I would also try a StagMag, with a triple shot ring, in the neck.

 

[Artie]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

I've had a love/hate relationship with the Stag Mag. I've bought and sold three. Maybe I haven't had it in the "right" axe yet. But anyway, I'm going to go ahead and install the Liberator, so I can try each of the ones I have. I'm anxious to try both the Perpetual Burn and Diablo, with the Demon in the neck, also. The Liberator will allow this.

 

[ItsaBass]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

Same here re: Stag-Mag.

IMO, if it is to be run as a humbucker, it needs to include coil taps and a wiring scheme such that both coils get tapped about 30-40 percent when they are placed in series.

The best use of the Stag Mag, IMO, is to give you two slightly different Strat tones in the same basic area. Kind of like giving you Robbie Robertson's famous leafed Strat with the two single coils side by side in the bridge position. This works quite nicely on a single humbucker guitar.

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

IMO, if it is to be run as a humbucker, it needs to include coil taps and a wiring scheme such that both coils get tapped about 30-40 percent when they are placed in series.

I've am also intrigued by the Stag Mag; at present I don't have one but I have an Alnico Pole humbucker that's supposed to sound like a WRHB but is really built like a Stag Mag, at ~10k with A5 poles. I'm not running it split at all right now, just series.

What's the value of tapping the opposite coil- just to retain some hum canceling in split mode, or darker tone?

But I bet the JazzN will be wonderful paired with a Demon - they share a sort of firmness in the lows.

Really similar pickups to me. But in comparing a Jazz Bridge to a Demon Bridge I find the lows are their greatest difference, with the Jazz being a significant bit looser. That said- a Jazz Neck is something I can see being a great pair with the Demon, if only because it has much of the character of a single coil to my ears.

 

[Artie]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

This works quite nicely on a single humbucker guitar.

That's what I did with my first one. I wired it with an on-on-on switch so I could do ser/par/split. It was cool for quite awhile. I think the reason I traded it was because it was at a time when money was tighter, and I wanted to try something new.

. . . a Jazz Neck is something I can see being a great pair with the Demon, if only because it has much of the character of a single coil to my ears.

I think that's what I'm going to try first. I've never actually heard a "true" Jazz before. My "Tele-Gib" uses the Duncan Designed JB/Jazz set.

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

I have the Duncan Designed 'JB/Jazz' whichever they are in a Soloist, and the real deal in a Strat Pickguard I'm not using at the moment. The Jazzes are quite similar between US & import, but the real JB is a fair bit better- it's a "J" though. I'm still not a huge JB fan but the Jazz is great.

 

[Artie]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

I never clicked with the JB either, but it's been so long since I had one, I can't remember why. It's been at least 20 years.

 

[treyhaislip]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

Bridge Dime, then Neck Demon, then middle/both?

Yup, was supposed to have been Dime, both, Demon as I usually try to go through the positions in order but messed up that time. lol

I never clicked with the JB either, but it's been so long since I had one, I can't remember why. It's been at least 20 years.

I used to love the JB but trying to get "cleaner" tones made it a tad harsh. On the flip side, my dad had an awesome Wayne (Charvel) with a JB in the bridge and a JB Jr in the neck...that thing rocked! (Mahogany body with all Maple neck...one of his "Monster" series with just an oil finish.)

I felt that the Screamin Demon was similar enough to the JB in way of response and tone but cleaned up nicer.

 

[Artie]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

Well, I'll know for sure when your JB gets here.

The bad part is . . . I expect everyone will want clips of every combo I try. :smack:

 

[treyhaislip]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

Well, I'll know for sure when your JB gets here.

The bad part is . . . I expect everyone will want clips of every combo I try. :smack:

Haha! Ooops...I'm usually the one asking for clips. Look forward to hearing your take on the combos!

 

[Artie]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

I will do clips. Even if it's just some simple chord progressions and pentatonic scales.

 

[treyhaislip]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

I will do clips. Even if it's just some simple chord progressions and pentatonic scales.

You rock man!

Simple G-C-D or a scale is helpful because it is very basic–showing the tone instead of some hard lick or something complicated.

 

[Artie]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

Yeah, and I was thinking, if someone like Joe Gore, or Pete Thorn plays something, it sounds killer simply because you're hearing their talent. In my case, that won't be a problem.

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

Things I dislike about the JB are improved on by the Demon- Demon has a lot more solid attack (bass notes in particular) and doesn't become a tinny mess when you try to roll the volume back. Using the volume control with a JB seems to kill everything except the harsh mids. I like the Demon clean- and I dislike clean humbuckers normally.

I also don't really like the harmonic content of high notes using the JB. It isn't that good music can't be made with a JB by me, it just takes a lot more dialing in of things and effort than the Demon, which is probably my favorite Gibson-style humbucker if you can't guess.

 

[Artie]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

It will be fun to compare them.

 

[Condemnedsoul]

Re: What neck pup would pair well with a Screamin' Demon?

Had this combination in an old Explorer that I sold in 2013. So its been awhile. Went thorough several pickup combinations and came across this pair. They played really well by them selves and together and stayed in the guitar until I sold her.

Neck: Jazz Bridge - Bridge: Screaming Demon​