What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

[SDK2]

Hi All,
i have Ibanez RGA42 HH guitar with passive Seymour Duncan Jason Becker Perpetual Burn Bridge.
Currently with Seymour Duncan Parallel Axis Original PATB-1n in the neck.
I'm looking for a pickup to pair it with for the neck and change the PATB-1n.

Few of the requirements i have:
- Passive Pickup
- To fit in the body w/o custom work.
- Suitable for Mahogany body.
- Mainly play NWBHM/Heavy Metal (Judas/Wasp/Maiden/Guns) or NeoClassical
- Clean and tight sound (not muddy) under moderate to heavy gain.
- Very articulative
- Lot of sustain and bending.


Any suggestions will be very appreciated.

 

[gregory]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

1. Full Shred Neck
2. Sentient
3. 59 Neck

I guess the forum software can't do strike-through?

 

[gregory]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

Is the active EQ toggle still installed?

 

[SDK2]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

No.

 

[The JEM Ghost]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

Currently with Seymour Duncan Parallel Axis Original PATB-1n in the neck.

And what do you dislike about the PATB-1n that is currently in the neck spot?? What would you change about the tone that the PATB-1n gives you? It should not be the worst pickup for what you described I guess?

The Duncan Jazz and the Full Shred neck comes into my mind when I read your description (so I agree with Gregory, can't comment on the Sentient, have never tried that one)
I also heard a lot of good things about a Sreamin'Demon in the neck spot on this forum, but I have not tried that myself either, maybe worth looking into that one too?

 

[gregory]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

I was going to say you could use the switch for additional wiring options.

From DiMarzio I'd check out the Bluesbucker and Humbucker from Hell.

 

[gregory]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

I also heard a lot of good things about a Sreamin'Demon in the neck spot on this forum, but I have not tried that myself either, maybe worth looking into that one too?

Sentient should have more bite than a Jazz, which I think is a bit too polite under gain.

I need to try the Demon in the neck spot too, but from the demos it sounds too scooped for me. Maybe with a different magnet. Also, the one Demon I own is a trembucker and is currently working well in an HSS configuration. If I buy another, it will likely have standard spacing and will probably be used in hybrids: one with a hotter coil in order to add articulation and bite and one with a weaker coil to add power and provide a better split sound. At least these are my musings. My main concern is that I think the Demon is heavily underwound and that would cause a large mismatch with whichever other coil I try.

 

[chadd]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

I like the Demon for that use, but the Sentient may work well too. I've never had a chance to try it

 

[Mr. B]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

I vote Full Shred neck. I don't like the Jazz fro shred, and I think the Demon in the neck would overpower the Perpetual Burn. Dimarzio Humbucker from Hell would be a great choice too.

 

[Mincer]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

Well, you won't get Judas Priest/Maiden and Guns out of one neck pickup. Guns had sort of a squishy neck pickup sound (that I love), but NWBHM acts had tighter sounding neck pickups, generally. The Jazz or Sentient are my first choices for clean neoclassical stuff.

 

[gregory]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

Which neoclassical shredders use/used a Jazz?

I see more use of a single coil in the neck by neoclassical shredders in general, which points to FS or HFH and BB if you're of the DMZ persuasion (though they have a plethora of shred worthy neck pickups).

The prominent Duncan shredders who go with a humbucker in the neck that I can recall, namely Alex Skolnick, Michael Schenker and John Norum, use(d) a 59. Dimebag used a 59 bridge. How does a Jazz differ from a 59? The answer may provide the explanation as to why these guys didn't use a Jazz.

 

[Mincer]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

The 59 is more scooped, and the Jazz seems to have percussiveness to it the 59 doesn't have. The Jazz, to me, is a 'harder' sounding pickup.

 

[gregory]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

I've always considered the Jazz to be more hi-fi, lacking the bite of a 59.

 

[IMENATOR]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

I have uses jazz and full shred. Both have nice cleans and can do a single coil-ish bluesy. From those two I perfer the full shred for high gain, very articulated. Tonewise the YJM neck is still my favorite for soling and I think it would be a nice match for a demon in the bridge.


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[SDK2]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

So i think i finally made up my mind to put a Jazz in the neck to pair it with the Perpetual Burn . Basically The Numbers Guitar w/o the middle pickup
My dilemma is if i should put the Jazz Bridge (SH-2b) in the Neck position or still with the Jazz Neck (SH-2n) in the neck position.
From what i'm reading mostly opinions are to put the Jazz Bridge (SH-2b) in the Neck position.
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?276717-SH-2B-in-neck
Any opinions ?

 

[gregory]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

For over two years I thought no other p'up could sound better than that one... until I've tried a Jazz neck in the neck. Then I've discovered the hard way that Seymour made neck-specific p'ups for a reason...

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[SDK2]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

Has anyone tried the Dimarzio LiquiFire? How is it compared to the JazzN?

 

[gregory]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

The DP227 is one of the best neck pickups ever designed, but it's going to be a little too hot for the PB. You could try a DP156.

Personally, I think you should go with a 59N especially for an RG, but I said my piece on the matter already. I don't believe the Jazz is really all that suitable for neoclassical shred, nor is it right for the '80s metal bands you mentioned (or GNR). If you want something with less bass than the 59N, I'd go with the Full Shred or Sentient. If cleans are important then I'd steer away from the Full Shred.

 

[Mincer]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

I think the Jazz bridge in the neck works well if
1. You use a high output bridge pickup
2. You play with some gain rather than clean more than 60% of the time.

 

[SDK2]

Re: What to pair the Jason Becker Perpetual Burn for Heavy/Neoclassical Metal?

@Georgy Thanks for all your comments. Very useful. I think i may give LiquiFire (DP227) a shot. It's DCR is 10.75 and is mostly paired with Crunch Lab (DP228) bridge which is DCR 11.03. PB is pretty much the same at 12.1. TBH i don't trust much those DCR rating anyway.