What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

Cron

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I know this is a really subjective question but I would like to know what type of wood most of u ppl prefer for a guitar body.

Feel free to post combinations of neck, body/body top and fretboard woods.

I'm building a custom guitar and cannot decide between them.
Which will work best with a maple cap.

I love the warmth of les pauls but I also want the wide open sound of a strat.
I'm a bit scared that the wrong wood choice would make my guitar too sharp or too dull. Pickups would be duncans of course.

I'm seriuosly considering korina, so i'd like to know what the differences are between korina and mahogany because i've heard different things from different ppl.

Thanx
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

From what I've heard, Mahogany and Korina share similar characteristics except that the latter is a little more open - more treble and mid frequencies. Jay Wolfe, who doesn't recommend it, says that Korina was a cheaper alternative when it was first used in the 60's. I'm a lil skeptical myself because a lot of high end builders (Hamer, Abyss, etc) use it a lot, and the guitars sound great in my opinion.

Another combination I've been thinking of is mahogany and walnut. It'd make the axe heavy as hell, but figured walnut is absolutely stunning and apparently has many characteristics of maple (bright top end and a solid bass). Another suggestion is Koa - similar to mahogany but less bassy and with more high mids.
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

i dig mahogany with a nice flame maple top.
nice thick bottom end and great highs from the maple.
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

I love the tone and the resonance of white korina. Another very resonant and toneful wood is koa. I prefer both of these woods over anything else.
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

Ok. Is black and white korina the same?

How would they wrok with maple caps?
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

From what I understand, white korina ia a little bit heavier than black korina but, It is supposed to be more resonant. They should work fine with maple caps. As far as the cap making a difference with tone. I think it would depend on how thick the cap is. If it is a thiner one it probally wouldnt make a difference with tone.
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

The carved top would be between 5/8" and 3/4".
Is it safe to say that korina is somewhere between mahogany and alder?
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

Cron said:
The carved top would be between 5/8" and 3/4".
Is it safe to say that korina is somewhere between mahogany and alder?

I've been trying to find this out myself, as I've been contemplating getting a Korina Warmoth. I've never played a guitar made out of korina, let alone compared it to otherwise identical guitars made out of other woods, so take my what I say with a huge grain of salt.

From asking around and doing deja-searches, I get answers ranging from "just like mahogany" to a description that sounds between mahogany and alder.
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

What shape do u want to get?
Tell me a bit more about your VIP, neck woods etc.
If i recall correctly you said it sounded sharp and bassy in bridge position.

I want strat clean with PRS/Les paul dirty. (basically what everyone wants)
Do you think mahogany with maple cap is the way to go. What neck woods would you recommend judging the sound of you VIP because that is the shape I want. I absolutely love it. I was thinking maple neck, rosewood fretboard, mahogany back with maple cap... but recently the korina thing has started to give me doubts about what the best choice would be.

Thanx
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

Cron said:
What shape do u want to get?

It's a toss-up between a strat and a VIP. I tried an A2 59/Blues hybrid in my swamp ash strat and fell in love with the sound. The only thing I might want is a richer, mahogany-type lowend.

My next guitar was going to be made out of korina ("just because"), but that changed once I tried my Blues hybrid pickup in the swamp ash strat. So, it's either going to be another swamp ash strat body, or it's going to be a mahogany VIP with a swamp ash top (they don't do korina/swamp ash combos, but I suppose I could ask nicely),

My logic is that since the bridge is mounted to the top, the top will affect the higher frequencies and attack more than the rest of the body. So, by going with swamp ash instead of maple, I can get the swamp-ash snap and softer high frequencies (compared to maple). The mahogany body will round out the lower frequencies (at least I'm hoping it will work this way). Whatever choice I make, the neck will be a maple/rosewood 25.5.

Tell me a bit more about your VIP, neck woods etc.

It's basically PRS/Les Paul specs: mahogany neck with rosewood board, Gibson 24 3/4 scale length, and a mahogany body with maple cap.

If i recall correctly you said it sounded sharp and bassy in bridge position.

Yep. With a bassy-yet-bright pickup like the C5, those characteristics were overemphasized. The high E string sounded ice-picky. The D sounded nice, but the low E string sounded twice as loud as all the others. A switch to an A2 Custom Custom fixed 95% of that. I added a treble-bleed cap to the volume pot, so when it is pulled up, some extra treble is bled to ground, even with the volume on 10. I've got an A3 in the CC right now, but I'm going to switch it back to a standard A2 Custom Custom.

Overall, the guitar sounds great and has an incredible woody tone.

I want strat clean with PRS/Les paul dirty. (basically what everyone wants)

I did a modification of the PRS wiring using a Super Switch:

1. bridge
2. inner coils in parllel (or is that outer?)
3. both HB in parallel
4. outer coils in parallel (or is that inner?)
5. Neck HB.

1, 3, and 5 give you standard humbucker sounds. #2 and #4 sounds stratish and teleish. They sound OK. They're in the ballpark, but don't match the sound of a real strat or tele.

Do you think mahogany with maple cap is the way to go. What neck woods would you recommend judging the sound of you VIP because that is the shape I want. I absolutely love it. I was thinking maple neck, rosewood fretboard, mahogany back with maple cap... but recently the korina thing has started to give me doubts about what the best choice would be.

Thanx

Hmmm...the maple neck will give you a different attack than an LP as will the Fender scale (I assume you're going in that direction). The big question is: do you want the maple cap?

Maybe check out some Les Pauls and humbucker equipped strats. The Les Pauls should sound brighter (assuming the pickups don't mask it). Don't confuse brighter with "less bass". I would imagine the alder strats will be less bright and have less bass than the Les Pauls.

If you are more concerned with getting a good, rockin', humbucker sound, and aren't aren't trying to get an authentic Les Paul sound, I think I would gamble a bit and go with an all Korina body with a Fender scale maple neck.


Here's some close-ups of the VIP:

http://users.adelphia.net/~mattspeterson/
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

I like Mahongany with a Maple top.

Like stated before, you really can't go wrong with mahogany.
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

I like the mahogany = maple top combination as well. If it is too dark sounding balance the sound with a maple neck..
 
Re: What wood? Mahogany/alder/ash/korina

Chambered mahogany with a maple top. You get all the nice things about a LP, but you also get added richness in the high mids. You might give up some low end "chunk", but what you gain by chambering is totally worth it (IMHO).
 
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