What's the blue wire in this diagram?

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Can anyone please explain what the blue wire in this diagram is? Is that a ground? If so, is the order of wires on the volume pot, ground, hot, folded over ground? Sorry, i'm a beginner at this and I would have thought that the hot wire comes from the output , gos through the volume pot and exits on the tab to the left. What's throwing me is that if that's hot going to the center lug of that switchcraft toggle, its soldering onto the center part of the frame of the switch which is connected to the control plate. I know i'm wrong about the way I looking at it , but how so? What's the blue wire?
 

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The blue wire is the output from the toggle switch (pickup selector). It should be connected between the switch output lug and the volume pot.

It is the gray wire on the opposite side in that diagram that is connecting the center part of the frame of the switch to ground.

If you zoom in on the diagram you should be able to see the differences on where they connect.
 
Yeah but what got OP confused is that the switch description says that the ground should be the center lug of the switch and the hot should be the bottom. On this diagram it is the opposite: center hot, bottom ground. :)
 
Hi again. I took a picture to show you what I'm Talking about. Keep in mind I know next to nothing about this. Everyone I think is saying its a hot wire. That middle lug is the switch frame and that connects to the control plate. Wouldn't that be pushing a current into my controls. I just don't see how its the hot. Im sure Im just missing something ,but where's that "hot" coming from?
 

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I included some more shots of the switch. I think the diagram is wrong, unless that middle is a ground which would mean that would be a ground attached to the left lug on the volume with the hot from the output being in the middle, Still confused.
 

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To be honest, you could just try it out. ;) Worst thing is that you get no sound, signaling that you've sent all your current to the ground. In that case you just switch the two connections and you should be okay.
 
If that turns out to be a ground , where would I connect the wire coming from the 1st tab on the volume pot which apparently from the posts here is a hot wire? The other two tabs are taken. one is the hot to the single coil and the other is the north start from the bridge pu. I apologize for all the questions , I just don't get it. Thanks again.
 
the skinny outside tabs should be connected to the respective pup hot wire, the big chunky middle tab should be grounded. the two two skinny tabs on the other side should be wired together and run as the hot blue wire in the diagram
 
I think everyone was answering based on your digram in post #1.

You can meter your switch to validate, but it looks like a straight Switchcraft toggle. If so, it should be wired like this diagram on the Stew Mac site. Ignore the extra electronics and just use the Neck, Ground, Bridge and Output reference.

https://www.stewmac.com/video-and-id...le-switch.html
 
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Thanks James paul, that's what started the discussion. I could not find a wiring diagram for, 1 Hum, I single , I Vol, NO TONE and a 3 way toggle. Nexion218 was kind enough to track that one down. I posted asking what the blue wire is because I could not figure out how the hot from the volume tied to the selecter. Everyone thought the blue wire was the hot but I didn't think it could be because it tied to the switch frame, Turns out I was right. So now back to the original question. The volume pot has one folded tab to ground. The middle tab is the hot from the output jack. The one remaining tab is a ground attached to the center tab on the switch also? How does the Hot get from the volume knob to the switch? The stew mac diagram (attached) confirms the middle tab on the switch is a ground , not a hot. The tabs to either side go to the hot of each pick up. Now for another curve, the stew mac diagram shows that the two tabs on the other side that we all agreed were grounds says output. I assume IF they were talking about grounding to the output jack it would say ground like it does for the tabs on the opposite side. I found and attached a second diagram I found on guitar electronics of my same configuration with 2 humbuckers. That blue wire is there too, but it shows the opposite side as a ground again, not output. Sorry for the continued questions but pretty much every answer i get is different. How does the hot get from the volume pot that is charged from the output jack wire, through the volume pot to the selector switch to power the pickups? Im sure Im missing something because of my lack of experience but its still confusing. Thanks for any help you can offer. I am contemplating changing to an acoustic.
 

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Jeremy I think your correct, they just drew the blue wire coming out of the chunky ground tab between the 2 hot pickup tabs . Then they drew the ground coming out of the opposite side, when in fact , thats the 2 hot tabs that connect to the remaining volume pot tab on the left. To summarize , chunky middle tab between the 2 hots grounds and the two tabs on the other side go to the volume 1st tab. Thank you everybody. If anybody disagrees let me know. You are all great, THANKYOU.
 
Jeremy I think your correct, they just drew the blue wire coming out of the chunky ground tab between the 2 hot pickup tabs . Then they drew the ground coming out of the opposite side, when in fact , thats the 2 hot tabs that connect to the remaining volume pot tab on the left. To summarize , chunky middle tab between the 2 hots grounds and the two tabs on the other side go to the volume 1st tab. Thank you everybody. If anybody disagrees let me know. You are all great, THANKYOU.

Yes, jeremy is correct. Your switch picture in post #12 is exactly what jeremy describes in post #10.

I also agree with your summary.
 
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