whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

[dalastcaffeine]

whats wrong with them??? IMO they sound great...sure they could use a little more output but they give off very usable tones.....i'm even planning to put a mid output epiphone humbuck in my main guitar.......i really like the openness of it...it sounds like a normal pup in parallel.....i imagine if i wire it in parallel i can get some very strat like tones....

 

[\m/(00)\m/]

they suck, thats what's wrong with them

actually i liked the stcok epiphon pickups in my les paul. but they started squeeling and i replaced it with a DD.
which i will be replacing with a Custom

 

[Gunner]

From what Evan Skopp said a couple of years back the Squier Strat pickups are the same as found in MIM Fenders! I never kept mine tho......pretty awful for what I was wanting my strat to sound like

 

[kmcguitars]

When I 1st got my Squire in 84' I pluged it my buddies BF twin .
(that was in a mild state of disrepair ) My guitar squealed
so bad I had to stand in another room to play. A week later I
returned with a new duncan PuP in the bridge. No problems
The PuPs in that guitar sounded thin and weak and where not
potted, Just some blue tape around the coil.

 

[Oldslowhand]

They sound Ok untill you put them up against Fender Or Gibson p/ups, most of them are low cost copys and not waxed properly if at all. They also tend not to be as full sounding and will squeale to easly. The new Epi's are much better than they were a couple of years ago, and of course most people who use this site think Duncans can better the tone for the use that they have in mind for the music they play. BUT IT'S YOUR EAR'S TRUST THEM everyone has there own taste if You think it sounds good it is:14:

 

[Robert S.]

Nothing really, you plug them into an amp and sound comes out. If you love them, you love them.

You really should try a couple of other pickups though. Many find the stock Epi and Squire pickups lacking after hearing SD pickups in their guitars.

 

[SfordRog]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

Hear, hear Robert S.! My Epi sounded fine for about five years...then I started playing with other people and noticed that I needed better tone and to cut through the mix. I switched to a JB/59 combo and haven't looked back. But I do remember the stock pups sounding fine while I was noodling around in the bedroom.

 

[brinton]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

I agree with the last three posts above, I loved my epi casino w/ p-90s, I was very pleased and it beat alot of other guitars' tone like an older hollowbody epi that I played was horrible. But one day I was in my local guitar shop and I eyed 1960's gibby hollowbody w/ p90s, plugged it in :32: how would I ever like anything but the best from then on, (P-90's and Strats are my favorite neck pups fftopic: ). I think once you play the real deal you won settle for less. Listen to SRV then pickup a squire and go :no:

 

[cvansickle]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

I bought a Squier Bullet Special last year. The stock pickup had non-adjustable poles, which didn't make sense with the neck radius being so curved. Bottom end wasn't bad at all, but tops and mids were missing.

I replaced it with an old Distortion, and the guitar really came alive. I added a Torres 2Mohm pot too, and now that guitar is gig ready.

 

[Artie]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

I got my boy a Squier Bullet Special last X-mas, and it has all the high-endy, jangly-mid-range you'ld want. Of course, he plays it through a J-Station and a Tascam mixing board, so we have a multitude of EQ opportunities.

 

[cvansickle]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

I got my boy a Squier Bullet Special last X-mas, and it has all the high-endy, jangly-mid-range you'ld want. Of course, he plays it through a J-Station and a Tascam mixing board, so we have a multitude of EQ opportunities.

Point taken - I played it through a Boogie Nomad 100 212 combo in the store, and I use a Boogie DC-5 112 combo at home. Two meat and potato amps, to be sure.

Still, I have no regrets about swapping pickups. The Duncan Distortion was always my favorite heavy metal pickup in the 80s, and I'm loving playing all that killer Judas Priest stuff again!

 

[Artie]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

I just noticed, in your first post, the part about the pole pieces not being adjustable with the curved neck. The pole pieces in this one match the curve of the neck pretty good. I wonder if maybe they changed the p'ups between when you got yours and we got this one. :question:

However, we definitely want to try some Duncans in this. Just not sure right now which ones.

 

[Kent S.]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

I say if you like 'em play 'em ... you could always look into potting them after checking around with some other pups if you start getting microphonic squeal.
Plus a tech could always sheild your singles to help a bit more, it will help, but it won't fix the fact that they are non humcancelling, although you might lose a tiny bit of high end ... tiny bit. Ask your local shop if you don't want to undertake it yourself ... better yet, wait and see if it even becomes a problem. :cool3:

 

[take2]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

I agree with the consensus - if it sounds good to you it is - HOWEVER, you should definitely do a comparison because many times something sounds good until it is compared to something else like a band mates guitar - it really can be night and day.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

whats wrong with them??? IMO they sound great...sure they could use a little more output but they give off very usable tones.....i'm even planning to put a mid output epiphone humbuck in my main guitar.......i really like the openness of it...it sounds like a normal pup in parallel.....i imagine if i wire it in parallel i can get some very strat like tones....

They sound good...not GREAT. Alot of pickups sound good and get dissed as being crap just because there are pickups that are better. Lew

 

[kill your scene]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

Maybe it's just my imagination, but I think stock pickups in Epis and Squiers sound "weak" and kind of anemic. I put new Duncans in my Squier P-bass and it sounds worlds better. Before I tried Duncans, I just thought the stocks were fine, but I began to feel like I wasn't cranking out enough power. Now it sounds like I am. Again, that may just be me imagining things, but I think foreign-made stocks are low in output.

 

[WARRENLEELYNCH]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

whats wrong with them??? IMO they sound great...sure they could use a little more output but they give off very usable tones.....i'm even planning to put a mid output epiphone humbuck in my main guitar.......i really like the openness of it...it sounds like a normal pup in parallel.....i imagine if i wire it in parallel i can get some very strat like tones....

the newest epi's use USA pups now and they are a vast improvement over those
tinny,lifeless,shrill,harsh,piercing,squealin like a stuck pig MIK wanna ba paf's :laugh2:
sorry but it is the truth, ans dont even get me started on the squier pups

 

[kill your scene]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

Occasionally, you'll come across a Squier that's a perfectly giggable instrument outside of the cheap-o electronics. My Squier (now with Duncans) holds up quite nicely. A quality axe, IMO.

 

[WARRENLEELYNCH]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

Occasionally, you'll come across a Squier that's a perfectly giggable instrument outside of the cheap-o electronics. My Squier (now with Duncans) holds up quite nicely. A quality axe, IMO.

yeah i am not knocking the guitars but like you said the pups and other electronics are sub par,i replace pups,switches,pots, on th epi's and squiers all the time from customers and once i do they LOVE the EPI or SQUIER
:cool3:

 

[cvansickle]

Re: whats wrong with squier or epiphone pups???

Occasionally, you'll come across a Squier that's a perfectly giggable instrument outside of the cheap-o electronics. My Squier (now with Duncans) holds up quite nicely. A quality axe, IMO.

It's hit or miss, really. I've played some great Epis, and I've played some POS Gibsons.