When did SD introduce the Five-Two single coils? Plus a wiring challenge...

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So, apparently I'm addicted to accumulating projects...

My very first guitar was an Olympic White Kramer Classic - A great sounding guitar, but I could never get it to sound anything else than bright. I swapped pickups, bridges... the one thing I didn't swap was the one-piece maple neck for a rosewood fingerboard (which probably would have worked, but it *was* a maple body, too o_0 ). Anyway, I sold the thing, and I've always kinda regretted it - call me sentimental (or just mental, as my wife would argue).

So.

The other day, I scored a three-color burst Kramer Classic body, then bought the matching (one-piece maple) neck to put back on it.

These originally came with 4 Seymour Duncan SSL-1s in them - 3 in the usual Strat positions, and a fourth RW out from underneath the strings, wired to act as a hum canceller.

My questions are these:

Anybody know how to wire that up?

And when were the Five-Twos introduced? I'm trying to build this thing back up as if it had been souped up back in the day. I've got a mid-80s 1R on the way - that should do for the noise canceller. But for the other three pickups, I'd like to either go with mid-80s SSL-1s + an SSL-5 at the bridge, or all Five-Twos to try and tame the treble a bit.

Any other suggestions?

Yeah yeah yeah, pics or it didn't happen - they'll be up when I have the neck back where it's supposed to be.
 
Re: When did SD introduce the Five-Two single coils? Plus a wiring challenge...

*scratches them off the list*
 
Re: When did SD introduce the Five-Two single coils? Plus a wiring challenge...

So, anybody know how that fourth pup is wired in?
 
Re: When did SD introduce the Five-Two single coils? Plus a wiring challenge...

So, basically a potted wire coil around a iron slug, not a magnet?

*reads the Cavalier Pickups link, and eyes his stash of Squier pickups... they quiver in fear*

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Re: When did SD introduce the Five-Two single coils? Plus a wiring challenge...

I think the reason the original had 4 SSLs was because the cancelling coil needs the exact same number of turns to cancel the hum (though it takes some high end and tone with it), so with the original design any PUP selected also would have a RW dummy SSL with the same number of winds paired with it. If you substitute Squire or some other cheap Strat-like PUP it still would work but possibly cancel less hum depending the wind difference. When choosing an alternate coil to use, I believe here is one of the few places where the DCR measure means something, but don't quote me as I'd have to go back through all those dummy coil threads to check myself on that. But I'm with you all the way - I have a stash of Fender MIM ceramic PUPs I'm eyeing to use on my 66' Strat.

I found it interesting that the coil could be just an 'air' coil made with any/some other wire. I'm going to look into that alternative, though I have yet to read up on it - e.g. how you match the resistance or balance the coil count using different wire whatever. I haven't begun looking into that one.
 
Re: When did SD introduce the Five-Two single coils? Plus a wiring challenge...

The Cavalier link said an exact match on coil value wasn't really necessary, that getting within a certain range would still do the trick. I can see where, say, a 75%-90% wind would accomplish a significant noise cancellation without leading to as much high end loss.

Hmmmmmmm.

The weird part is I'm 95% certain that the fourth pups I had in my original had live magnets in 'em. *shrug*
 
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