When the BOSS TU-2 Compact Tuner Pedal is BYPASSED...
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the guy who invented fire
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Re: When the BOSS TU-2 Compact Tuner Pedal is BYPASSED...
Boss pedlas are not true bypass...none of them but they have a great switching system and really don't need to be.
Boss pedlas are not true bypass...none of them but they have a great switching system and really don't need to be.
GuitarStv
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I defy anyone to tell the difference in tone between a straight though signal and a signal that passes through one or two boss pedals . . . true bypass always being the best for your guitar signal is a myth. If you use longer cables, adding a buffered pedal in between them and your amp can help your tone . . .
I defy anyone to tell the difference in tone between a straight though signal and a signal that passes through one or two boss pedals . . . true bypass always being the best for your guitar signal is a myth. If you use longer cables, adding a buffered pedal in between them and your amp can help your tone . . .
Marcel
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2. Why not using active pubs .. they're already buffered?
You can definitly hear a difference between true-bypass or not, the question is can you still hear this in a band situation?
1. Is the boss really a buffer or is it just a load and your signal send thru some JFETs?GuitarStv said:
2. Why not using active pubs .. they're already buffered?
You can definitly hear a difference between true-bypass or not, the question is can you still hear this in a band situation?
Closed Eye
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Re: When the BOSS TU-2 Compact Tuner Pedal is BYPASSED...
I've never noticed any tone suckage from the TU-2 at all. In bypass, through the normal output, or whatever. I've said it time and again...
So, to answer your question "no". But yeah, it's also not true bypass either.
I've never noticed any tone suckage from the TU-2 at all. In bypass, through the normal output, or whatever. I've said it time and again...
So, to answer your question "no". But yeah, it's also not true bypass either.
GuitarStv
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1. When you send your signal through some opamps you're buffering it, and yes all Boss pedals are buffered.
2. ?
I find that most people who say that they can hear a huge difference between true bypass and buffered pedals have never actually tried. Take two ten foot guitar cables, one buffered pedal, one true bypass pedal and test it for yourself. If you have super discerning ears you might hear a little high frequency loss from the true bypass pedal. I'm guessing that if you're honest with yourself, you won't hear any difference however.
Marcel said:
1. When you send your signal through some opamps you're buffering it, and yes all Boss pedals are buffered.
2. ?
I find that most people who say that they can hear a huge difference between true bypass and buffered pedals have never actually tried. Take two ten foot guitar cables, one buffered pedal, one true bypass pedal and test it for yourself. If you have super discerning ears you might hear a little high frequency loss from the true bypass pedal. I'm guessing that if you're honest with yourself, you won't hear any difference however.
twoheadedboy
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It is not true bypass, but it is a great sounding bypass. I can't tell the difference between it being in my signal and not being in my signal as long as I'm using decent cables.
It is not true bypass, but it is a great sounding bypass. I can't tell the difference between it being in my signal and not being in my signal as long as I'm using decent cables.
CapoFirstFret
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but that's 5 boss pedals....I use the TU-2 and a DD-3 and I don't hear any appreciable tone loss! In fact I run through quite a few pedals and I don't suffer much (IF ANY!) tone loss at all!
but that's 5 boss pedals....I use the TU-2 and a DD-3 and I don't hear any appreciable tone loss! In fact I run through quite a few pedals and I don't suffer much (IF ANY!) tone loss at all!
Marcel
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Re: When the BOSS TU-2 Compact Tuner Pedal is BYPASSED...
Anyway every effect and cable is sucking tone...some more some less... the question is if you really can hear it and how it works for you...
I didn't say a buffer isn't bad at all!? But if it's necessery to buffer it to get the signal over a longer cable why isn't anybody playing active pubs?GuitarStv said:
Anyway every effect and cable is sucking tone...some more some less... the question is if you really can hear it and how it works for you...
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GuitarStv
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I'm not saying that buffered pedals are better than true bypass all of the time, I'm just saying that generally speaking you can't really hear much difference between them. I had a buddy once who spent a few grand ensuring that his pedal board was completely true bypass. Then he'd come over to my place and be amazed that my mixed assortment of buffered and true bypass pedals didn't suck as much tone as his . . .
But what are these active pubs that you keep talking about?
I'm not saying that buffered pedals are better than true bypass all of the time, I'm just saying that generally speaking you can't really hear much difference between them. I had a buddy once who spent a few grand ensuring that his pedal board was completely true bypass. Then he'd come over to my place and be amazed that my mixed assortment of buffered and true bypass pedals didn't suck as much tone as his . . .
But what are these active pubs that you keep talking about?
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I don't use and have never used it before, but I don't trust any Boss pedal after knowing that the GE-7 pedal changes my tone when it is bypassed. Then, after reading a lot of Boss pedal reviews, it seems that many of them suffers the same issue; they call it the "Boss flavor."
In addition, some people say that the TU-2 is not accurate enough. I stick to my beloved $16 KORG tuner.
I don't use and have never used it before, but I don't trust any Boss pedal after knowing that the GE-7 pedal changes my tone when it is bypassed. Then, after reading a lot of Boss pedal reviews, it seems that many of them suffers the same issue; they call it the "Boss flavor."
In addition, some people say that the TU-2 is not accurate enough. I stick to my beloved $16 KORG tuner.
Marcel
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Re: When the BOSS TU-2 Compact Tuner Pedal is BYPASSED...
Let me go back to theory pls. One problem is the input impedance of the pedals it should be very high. In common it's not as high as on a tube amp. This gives the pickup a bigger load and cut highs (not really it's more complex but it's what it sounds like). But on the other side some people use their off-switched pedal to warm up the sound of their single coils a bit.
I agree your posts! With the actives: I was just wondering why active pups (which isn't much more than a bufferd passive pup) are disliked by people using a ton of non true bypass pedals? Ok it's not exact the same... but from this point of view if you accept buffering pedals you on top of that have to accept active pubs... that was my thoughtGuitarStv said:
Let me go back to theory pls. One problem is the input impedance of the pedals it should be very high. In common it's not as high as on a tube amp. This gives the pickup a bigger load and cut highs (not really it's more complex but it's what it sounds like). But on the other side some people use their off-switched pedal to warm up the sound of their single coils a bit.
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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1Mega in, about 180-200ohm out, it cuts no highs and lessen the noise.
And different cables do change the sound, with so little current in instrumentlevel signal it is easy to drop off mv.
1Mega in, about 180-200ohm out, it cuts no highs and lessen the noise.
And different cables do change the sound, with so little current in instrumentlevel signal it is easy to drop off mv.
saladin
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I use a Boss TU-2 and it does suck tone. I've found away around that by plugging it into the extra output from my chorus pedal which is in the loop. This way I'm going straight in the amp and not getting any signal loss.
See tuner out post for my next question.
I use a Boss TU-2 and it does suck tone. I've found away around that by plugging it into the extra output from my chorus pedal which is in the loop. This way I'm going straight in the amp and not getting any signal loss.
See tuner out post for my next question.
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Basicly, never use a tuner in the signal path.
Basicly, never use a tuner in the signal path.
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Skarekrough
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.....these are of course the same people that say they can tell the tonal difference between a $120 cable and a $20 cable.
I contend if you can hear that much difference then you can also probably hear a tit mouse fart in my backyard from 100 yards out.
GuitarStv said:
.....these are of course the same people that say they can tell the tonal difference between a $120 cable and a $20 cable.
I contend if you can hear that much difference then you can also probably hear a tit mouse fart in my backyard from 100 yards out.
