when will Marshall offer new gear?

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...Hello, Mitch,

Good to see that you are around. I've got just a quick question. Is there any chance that Marshall will eventually release a RI of the 2204 or equivalent to? And are there any new 50 watt tube models on the horizon?

Thanks for your time....sam
 
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Hello all. Mitch Colby, Senoir Vice President of Product Development and Support for Korg USA. Korg USA is the exclusive distributor of Marshall, Vox and Korg for the US. Korg owns VOX but Marshall is an independantly owned company which is still 100% owned by Jim Marshall. I have been with the company since 1978 in various capacities, starting out as a product specialist (product demonstrator). I started tinkering with and collecting amplifiers since 1966 at the age of 13.
 
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....thanks for the speedy reply!...now I await anxiously for the other models!!... :dance: .....sam
 
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mitch colby said:
the Mode Four is selling better than the JCM800 Master Volume amps ever did.

First of all, Thanks for chiming in here Mitch :)

Second...I would say pricing would have a huge effect on sales #'s..just like everything else. I think the general concensus for many would be the MG series (for example) are not the best sounding amps, but prolly Marshall's best sellers, no?

800 series amps have always been "top of the line" for marshall, whether it was a reissue or not.. I would think they would always sell less than mid priced or low priced gear...that's just economics.

Thanx for your input.... and now a product request please? :D

50 watt combo...all tube, EL34s...half power reduction...3/4 or closed back...2 or 3 channels with plexi and 800 type voicings. Moderate pricing (grand or under). Price-wise there is nothing for Marshall to compete with companies like Peavey (5150/6505/XXX40) and MESA (F30/50). The DSL40 is close, but doesn't have a very good rep for reliability, and the AVT's just don't cut it.
 
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mitch colby said:
Hello all. Mitch Colby, Senoir Vice President of Product Development and Support for Korg USA. Korg USA is the exclusive distributor of Marshall, Vox and Korg for the US. Korg owns VOX but Marshall is an independantly owned company which is still 100% owned by Jim Marshall. I have been with the company since 1978 in various capacities, starting out as a product specialist (product demonstrator). I started tinkering with and collecting amplifiers since 1966 at the age of 13.

Hi Mitch,

Its nice to hear from a company rep! I started this thread because I'm a big fan of Marshall amps. I'm in the market for a new combo amp and wanted to know if Marshall will be offering some new combo amps anytime soon. Will there be any new additions to the Valvestate line? The competition is putting out some great sounding solid state and hybrid amps with modelling for a fracton of the price of a Valvestate. The Vox in particular is a great sounding hybrid amp with modelling that costs $100 less than a AVT20. Will there be new, more affordable offerings from Marshall anytime soon? If so, what can we expect to see?

Thanks, and ROCK ON!
 
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Unfortunately, I'm sworn to secrecy. There are always new products on the horizon. Sometimes the horizon is further out than we would like for the exact product we envision.
 
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Marshall and Fender both have the same problem. Competing with their past selves. I love Marshalls but probably won't be buying a new one because the 3 vintage ones I have are pretty damn sweet sounding. Same with my Fenders.

Marshall will suceed best by doing what Marshall does best. Not what Mesa or Bogner do best. And frankly, NO ONE does Marshall better than Marshall at any price in spite of what the Mesa or anyone else would have you believe.
 
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TheArchitect said:
Marshall and Fender both have the same problem. Competing with their past selves. I love Marshalls but probably won't be buying a new one because the 3 vintage ones I have are pretty damn sweet sounding. Same with my Fenders.

Marshall will suceed best by doing what Marshall does best. Not what Mesa or Bogner do best. And frankly, NO ONE does Marshall better than Marshall at any price in spite of what the Mesa or anyone else would have you believe.

That's exactly why I want to stick with Marshalls. I love 'em, but when you're shopping for a new amp, and you try one out thats sounds great, has more features and costs less $$$, its very tempting to buy something else...

Thats the problem with amp GAS... I need to release now! I can't hold it for too long...
 
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Zakk said it best when he said he'd rather pay to play through a Marshall than to play another amp for free! (though I guess he got at least one of his Sig. amps on the house, eh?) :)
 
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mitch colby said:
It's really interesting that so many things are said with little basis in fact.
I figure you might be the only person I've run across who can answer this question for me; I went thru THREE different DSL 50's last year that all had to be returned within the 30 day return policy to Guitar Center. All amps were brand new and sealed in the box. Two suffered from volume drops and one suffered from popping noises. I eliminated all other variables (cables, tubes, speakers, etc) as being the cause in each instance. Ultimately I ended up with a Soldano since I felt I could trust their reliability. A shame really because I like the DSL otherwise.

Any input as to the run of lemons I suffered?
 
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Regarding the three faulty amps, that sounds like a run of bad luck for you and us. We sell lots of amps as you can imagine and they don't all break although some do. They should work and there is no excuse. On the other hand we stand by all of our products and when something does break we have been there for 42 years.
 
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in the UK, nobody has a mode four. i've never seen one on stage (though i know matt bellamy used one for the absolution tour, as a backup for his diezel), compared to the countless times i've seen JCMs used on stage...

true, mode four has outsold JCM 800s, in the same way Squier strats outsell PRS's. the two are chalk and cheese IMO..

look on the marshall site's list of endorsees - i can see raging speedhorn using the MF350, the rest are sticking with all-valve amps.. at the end of the day, they just sound better.
 
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I'm with Skarekrough - Marshall needs to build some practical amps for the everyday player.

I think in general Marshalls have THE TONE, but are 1) too expensive and 2) too powerful for most normal people. The handwired 18- and 20-Watters are nice, but too much money. I think a PCB reissue 18-Watter (along the lines of Fenders' 65 Deluxe Reissue) would sell like hotcakes. (I play an 18 Watter copy that I built myself out of an old Bogen PA amp for a few hundred dollars.) Similarly, I'm sure the reissue Plexi sounds great, but who needs 100 (or even 50) watts, especially in a non-MV amp? The DIY amp boards are full of praise for "6V6 Plexi" amps - plexi design with a 25-watt output stage. Does Marshall make one? Nooooooo.

The cost of entry into the boutique market is too low - almost anyone who can find old schematics on the web and wire up a chassis neatly can be a boutique manufacturer. Marshall should use its size and financial strength to bring us something the boutiques can't: amps that sound great, but that are mass-produced to keep them affordable. Not cheap, but affordable.
 
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mitch colby said:
Sam - 2204, maybe. Other 50 watt amps, yes!

While you're working on the 2204, make sure to package it as a 4010 as well. The one amp I never should have sold. :smack:
 
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"true, mode four has outsold JCM 800s, in the same way Squier strats outsell PRS's. the two are chalk and cheese IMO.."

The analogy isn't quite the same. PRSs are five to ten times the price (or more) of a Squire. The Mode Four is 25% less than a new 2203.
 
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Mitch, tell Jim and the boys they did a good job on the MG250DFX. I've owned one for about a year and half and I'm continually surprised by what I can do with that amp. I don't really care what anybody says about solidstate, that thing rocks!
 
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Closed Eye said:
Mitch, tell Jim and the boys they did a good job on the MG250DFX. I've owned one for about a year and half and I'm continually surprised by what I can do with that amp. I don't really care what anybody says about solidstate, that thing rocks!

I have an MG100DFX, and I honestly dont see what people are whining about...They are much better than any other SS amp I have played, tenfold. Yes, they could have scrapped the whole built in effects idea because they actually take away from what the amp COULD be. Instead of investing in development for the DFX, maybe they could have put a slightly better speaker, or maybe work on the fan a little. But Still....the amps really arent that bad. If you use them for downtuned riffs, or just some heavy rythms they are pretty good at what they do. They arent built for the stage, and they arent gonna sparkle like a fender on cleans... but they are definitely usefull amps for the price. Loud enough at 100 watts to piss of your neighbours, and also quiet enough not to wake anyone in your own house. Whens the last time you tried playing at 11:00pm with a Diezel or Engl halfstack without waking anyone up?

Sometimes people are just too bloody critical. Especially when it comes to something like SS Vs. Tube. When Marshall designed the MG series do you honestly think they were going to provide a $550 100 watt amp that would blow away a $3000 Mesa halfstack? No...but they certainly made them better than most solid state amps on the market. Not eveyone can afford the best gear, or even if they could, cant justify spending thousands of dollars on an amp when they arent even good enough to do live shows.
 
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No doubt, altho the MG's are not Plexi's they do sound pretty decent for the $ and for SS. They have been a love hate affair when I've played through them. Really seems to depend on the guitar/pickups.

I still prefer the old 5XXX series though (lead 12 and all it's ilk). Perhaps because they were simpler (as mentioned lacking all the bells & whistles), and made in england they were built better? I had a couple of them back in the 80's and they were VERY good sounding SS amps. Put a TS-x or Boss SOD in front of 'em and they got really smooth.

I need a new decent low volume amp (just not happy with the VOX) and I've been eyeing the MGs again as well as THIS. I had this exact amp.
 
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mitch colby said:
In the last year, Marshall introduced the hand wired series which includes the 18 watt combo, 20 watt head and 100 watt plexi (with assorted cabs). Eventually there will be more hand wired amps and not all of them reissues.

All well and good but as you know those amps are very expensive and I don't think most players are able to afford them.

I think what people REALLY want, more than amps that are handwired, are amps that sound REALLY good, bear the Marshall sound and fly the flag well, and are affordable. It doesn't have to be handwired to sound great. Boogie and Bogner make some of the best-sounding amps out there right now and they're PC-board based.

All the same it's good to see Marshall doing this again. I tried out the HW Plexi at NAMM and didn't really care for it (tone and feel seemed too hard) but the low-wattage combos were a treat. If we could get this kind of sound for under $2000 I think that'd be great.

mitch colby said:
The analogy isn't quite the same. PRSs are five to ten times the price (or more) of a Squire. The Mode Four is 25% less than a new 2203.

I think this is a bit of an odd comparison as you're not just comparing amps, but you're also comparing two different economies... people's buying habits today are not the same as they were 20 years ago and it's a very different market now. How much did the JCM800 heads retail for brand new in the year that they were discontinued? It would be interesting to plug the price information into a money conversion table on the US Dept. of Labor website to see what the "real" price comes out to me.

The Mode Four IS less expensive and I don't think it's a bad amp at all... but the fact is that a lower cost will make it available to a wider range of people and thus increase sales. Good business strategy but does it make a better amp? Not in my opinion. Plus comparing an amp based on Valvestate technology to an all-tube amp is kind of comparing apples to oranges.

As far as solid-state and valvestate stuff goes... I think the 2nd generation valvestate line (VS series) was far superior to the AVT line. Every AVT I've ever tried or used (and I've seen a lot of them) has been rather lacking compared to what I was used to with my VS265R (WONDERFUL stereo chorus on that thing) and VS100R heads. A lot of them seemed to have this irritating clicking noise going on whenever the digital effects were engaged and two of them that belonged to friends of mine actually caught fire at one point.

Solid-state amps... I'd really prefer a Line 6 but kids seem to like them. If I had to make any suggestions I'd say try to beef up the tonal intergrity a bit... fatten up the mids, add a touch more gain to make the tone more present... just a slight revoice and gain tweak.

Regarding new products... I'd really like to see a revamped DSL and TSL line with higher-grade parts and circuit components. The amps themselves are nice but there's some issues that need fixing in order to keep up with the times. PC-mounted pots for example... if you manages to crunch in a pot and fracture the circuit board then it's new amp time if you're warranty's out. With pots that are mounted on the chassis and then "fly-wired" to the PC board by PTP wiring on the pots ONLY this wouldn't happen.

All in all, I like the pure sound and bulletproof reliability of an old Marshall, and I think the DSLs and TSLs are good amps but need some work... i think a revamp to create a "best of both worlds" line is in order, but it sounds as if it may already be in the works.
 
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