Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
The Custom Custom has a bigger and more fuller sound. The BBQ is great distorted and overdriven but lacks high end clarity and definition. The BBQ is great for playing ZZ Top style rhythms but lacks the bite and chime on the single strings notes. The Custom Custom has a very creamy well rounded sound that can be big and full. When you turn up the volume it overdrives great and can do everything the BBQ can but cleans up nice also. I would go with the Custom Custom. If you decide you want a BBQ...I am pulling one out of my strat which I am replacing with a TB-11 Custom Custom.
The Custom Custom has a bigger and more fuller sound. The BBQ is great distorted and overdriven but lacks high end clarity and definition. The BBQ is great for playing ZZ Top style rhythms but lacks the bite and chime on the single strings notes. The Custom Custom has a very creamy well rounded sound that can be big and full. When you turn up the volume it overdrives great and can do everything the BBQ can but cleans up nice also. I would go with the Custom Custom. If you decide you want a BBQ...I am pulling one out of my strat which I am replacing with a TB-11 Custom Custom.
papersoul
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
In my opinion the BBQ is a huge, rich, thick, juicy, and complex sounding pickup. Let me just say you guys have me wanting to try a CC. How is the CC for heavy music such as tight palm mutes? I am surprised it is so big sounding since it has a narrow focus on mids....correct?
Thanks!
PS......do they work well in LPs?
In my opinion the BBQ is a huge, rich, thick, juicy, and complex sounding pickup. Let me just say you guys have me wanting to try a CC. How is the CC for heavy music such as tight palm mutes? I am surprised it is so big sounding since it has a narrow focus on mids....correct?
Thanks!
PS......do they work well in LPs?
Mac-P
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
Thanks everyone.
As far as the BBQ not having as much treble as the CC, I am really not concerned with that. Less treble is good as far as I'm concerned in the bridge slot.
The tone curve on the CC would lead you to believe that there is not a lot of bass. Is this true?
Also, which pickup has more mids and are they high mids or low mids?
Thanks!!!
Thanks everyone.
As far as the BBQ not having as much treble as the CC, I am really not concerned with that. Less treble is good as far as I'm concerned in the bridge slot.
The tone curve on the CC would lead you to believe that there is not a lot of bass. Is this true?
Also, which pickup has more mids and are they high mids or low mids?
Thanks!!!
Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
I am not sure how the Custom Custom would sound in a Les Paul but it is a phenomonal match for the Strat bridge. I was suprised when I saw that it was midrange boosted because this gives me the best palm mutes and thickest tones of any pickup that I have tried. I have heard great things about a BBQ in a Les Paul....it just didn't workout in my strat. If I were putting a pickup in a Les Paul based on the tone that you seem to be trying to attain....I would get a Gibson Angus Humbucker. It gives you great low end but it has a sparkling high end and each note chimes. It's a great all around pickup....basically an overwound 57 classic. I liked the BBQ at first but after using the Angus...I noticed that my solos and fills didn't have that sparkle and presence with the BBQ that they had when I used my guitar with the Angus. In a Strat....I dont think any pickup can come close to the tone that a Custom Custom gives you from my standpoint...but in a Les Paul or SG....I would go with the Angus Humbucker.
I am not sure how the Custom Custom would sound in a Les Paul but it is a phenomonal match for the Strat bridge. I was suprised when I saw that it was midrange boosted because this gives me the best palm mutes and thickest tones of any pickup that I have tried. I have heard great things about a BBQ in a Les Paul....it just didn't workout in my strat. If I were putting a pickup in a Les Paul based on the tone that you seem to be trying to attain....I would get a Gibson Angus Humbucker. It gives you great low end but it has a sparkling high end and each note chimes. It's a great all around pickup....basically an overwound 57 classic. I liked the BBQ at first but after using the Angus...I noticed that my solos and fills didn't have that sparkle and presence with the BBQ that they had when I used my guitar with the Angus. In a Strat....I dont think any pickup can come close to the tone that a Custom Custom gives you from my standpoint...but in a Les Paul or SG....I would go with the Angus Humbucker.
papersoul
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
So is the Angus big and full?? I am curious about that one for sure.
I did notice a huge difference when I replaced all my JBs with Rio BBQs. The tone got bigger, fuller, thicker, richer, with more body for sure. I also agree with Mac that less highs in the bridge can be a good thing.
My buddy just started using the Rio BBQ and he also appreciates that the Rio lacks highs......as this really compliments most modern amps which to me sound too bright! The BBQ has plenty of mids and tons of low end. Some say the BBQ has lots of high mids like the JB, but less (smoother) highs and more bass.
One pickup I have to try in my LP is the C-5 and Custom. The C-5 is going in this week.
My thing is that I try to fill up a lot of sound since I am the primary guitarist in our band. So far, the BBQ has been it.
So is the Angus big and full?? I am curious about that one for sure.
I did notice a huge difference when I replaced all my JBs with Rio BBQs. The tone got bigger, fuller, thicker, richer, with more body for sure. I also agree with Mac that less highs in the bridge can be a good thing.
My buddy just started using the Rio BBQ and he also appreciates that the Rio lacks highs......as this really compliments most modern amps which to me sound too bright! The BBQ has plenty of mids and tons of low end. Some say the BBQ has lots of high mids like the JB, but less (smoother) highs and more bass.
One pickup I have to try in my LP is the C-5 and Custom. The C-5 is going in this week.
My thing is that I try to fill up a lot of sound since I am the primary guitarist in our band. So far, the BBQ has been it.
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
I wouldn't say the Angus is big and full like the Custom Custom but it has more sparkle in soloing and you can hear each note. The Custom Custom has a great creamy sound as where the Angus seems to have a thinner but growling in your face sound that chimes ( I am running out of adjectives to use). Play the Angus through a Marshall Tube and it sounds huge. It sounds great on AC/DC obviously but we also play Fortunate Son and Long Cool Woman and it nails that tone especially on the the intros which cut through and seem to sustain perfect. I liked the BBQ until I tried the Angus. I think the BBQ is similar to Malcolm Youngs tone which seems to be heavier and darker than Angus. I have a BBQ that will be available in about a week if anyone is interested. I know it wont mesh with my Basswood Heavy Metal Strat which is already a darktone guitar....so in about a week it will be homeless.
I wouldn't say the Angus is big and full like the Custom Custom but it has more sparkle in soloing and you can hear each note. The Custom Custom has a great creamy sound as where the Angus seems to have a thinner but growling in your face sound that chimes ( I am running out of adjectives to use). Play the Angus through a Marshall Tube and it sounds huge. It sounds great on AC/DC obviously but we also play Fortunate Son and Long Cool Woman and it nails that tone especially on the the intros which cut through and seem to sustain perfect. I liked the BBQ until I tried the Angus. I think the BBQ is similar to Malcolm Youngs tone which seems to be heavier and darker than Angus. I have a BBQ that will be available in about a week if anyone is interested. I know it wont mesh with my Basswood Heavy Metal Strat which is already a darktone guitar....so in about a week it will be homeless.
Mac-P
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
You see, I HATED the C5. I like a LOT of mids in the bridge position. The C5 has the mids pulled back, which isn't my taste.
Right now I am using an old pre-logo JB that I got back in the 80's. It is the best pickup I have tried in the bridge slot of this particular guitar. Nice and wide single notes.
I am trying to hone in on even a MORE perfect tone, and I'd like to find something that has a hair less highs, and more low mids, while keeping the power and retaining clarity.
I do not use a lot of gain. I use a Custom Shop Fulldrive 2 through a mostly clean Fender to give you an idea.
I have heard great things about the Rio BBQ, but contradictory stuff as well. Some people say it has scooped mids like the C5. Others say it has nice healthy robust mids. Which is it?
The Duncan CC has always interested me, but I did not like the Custom, and liked the Custom 5 even less. So I find it hard to believe that the CC can be SO much different. I really want a WARMER, thicker tone in the bridge.
SO, I am still trying to figure this one out.....
Any more input? It is greatly appreciated!!!
Peace.
papersoul said:
You see, I HATED the C5. I like a LOT of mids in the bridge position. The C5 has the mids pulled back, which isn't my taste.
Right now I am using an old pre-logo JB that I got back in the 80's. It is the best pickup I have tried in the bridge slot of this particular guitar. Nice and wide single notes.
I am trying to hone in on even a MORE perfect tone, and I'd like to find something that has a hair less highs, and more low mids, while keeping the power and retaining clarity.
I do not use a lot of gain. I use a Custom Shop Fulldrive 2 through a mostly clean Fender to give you an idea.
I have heard great things about the Rio BBQ, but contradictory stuff as well. Some people say it has scooped mids like the C5. Others say it has nice healthy robust mids. Which is it?
The Duncan CC has always interested me, but I did not like the Custom, and liked the Custom 5 even less. So I find it hard to believe that the CC can be SO much different. I really want a WARMER, thicker tone in the bridge.
SO, I am still trying to figure this one out.....
Any more input? It is greatly appreciated!!!
Peace.
Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
I have used the JB, Screamin Demon and Pearly Gates all of which had a little quirk or two that I didn't like. They all sounded thin to me in my alder strat. I bought the JB based on the reviews I read on it and it seemed like the perfect pickup in print but the JB just sounded dull (sorry guys from the poll)...it wasn't that tone I was looking for. The Screamin Demon had great high end sparkle and clarity but was a too thin sounding and lacked the low end that I wanted. The Pearly Gates and my strat didn't mesh at all. The BBQ sounded great playing rhythms but when soloing didn't chime and the high notes lacked brightness ( the BBQ could be the ultimate ZZ Top tone pickup that I have played though...it nails it almost perfect) But when I put the Custom Custom in....it was incredible. The difference between the Custom, Custom 5 and the Custom Custom is the magnets. The Custom uses ceramic which is going to give you a bright tone, the Custom 5 uses an alnico 5 which will give you more bass and softer yet present highs and the Custom Custom uses alnico 2 which is a warmer more vintage tone. All 3 are high output pickups but I think the alnico 2 is what tones down the harshness and smooths out this pickup. It has incredible lowend and is just so smooth but really is great when overdriving your amp. I have my Custom Custom in a strat and can't really render an opinion of how it would sound in anything other than a Fender Guitar.
I have used the JB, Screamin Demon and Pearly Gates all of which had a little quirk or two that I didn't like. They all sounded thin to me in my alder strat. I bought the JB based on the reviews I read on it and it seemed like the perfect pickup in print but the JB just sounded dull (sorry guys from the poll)...it wasn't that tone I was looking for. The Screamin Demon had great high end sparkle and clarity but was a too thin sounding and lacked the low end that I wanted. The Pearly Gates and my strat didn't mesh at all. The BBQ sounded great playing rhythms but when soloing didn't chime and the high notes lacked brightness ( the BBQ could be the ultimate ZZ Top tone pickup that I have played though...it nails it almost perfect) But when I put the Custom Custom in....it was incredible. The difference between the Custom, Custom 5 and the Custom Custom is the magnets. The Custom uses ceramic which is going to give you a bright tone, the Custom 5 uses an alnico 5 which will give you more bass and softer yet present highs and the Custom Custom uses alnico 2 which is a warmer more vintage tone. All 3 are high output pickups but I think the alnico 2 is what tones down the harshness and smooths out this pickup. It has incredible lowend and is just so smooth but really is great when overdriving your amp. I have my Custom Custom in a strat and can't really render an opinion of how it would sound in anything other than a Fender Guitar.
dr.barlo
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
Guys,
First we have to settle on the definition of big and fat! To me that means postively related to lowermids. The tone becomes throaty instead of nasal. I don't remember who it was, but that person presented a greeat (I think) analogy here. C5/BBQ vs CC is like a louder wild cat screaming versus a tiger roaring.
That said, the bass is different. On CC it is spongy, smooth, not in your face as in a5 #43 hot pickups. It is not that defined, but there is bass! And there are highs, plenty of them. A5's have more uppermids, hence that nasal scream that gets annoying with #43 a5 hot pickups (just my humble opinion) with high DC values.
I used a BBQ for a long time, over two years. I had 2sets one of which I still keep. I traded one set here (Mac-P remember ?). BBQ is a weird pickup. Lots of uppermids, noticeably less highs, not much lower mids and plenty of in your face bass. It reminds me to a dark 498T! I used to love the BBQ for the aggressive tone it has, think of a dark but nasal scream. In fact early 90's ACDC work features lots of that. Another problem is that BBQ has too focused tone I think. Yet it is not that defined. So that's why I say it is somewhat weird.
BTW in the tips clips I have some clips of my CC/PGn set and BBQ/TExas set.
B
A side note: C5 in a fat LP bridge with a marshall or bassman does have a lot of mids. In fact then CC might become a little blurry. And for the inbetween cases A3 is the one to have! My favorite so far, against c5 and c2.
Guys,
First we have to settle on the definition of big and fat! To me that means postively related to lowermids. The tone becomes throaty instead of nasal. I don't remember who it was, but that person presented a greeat (I think) analogy here. C5/BBQ vs CC is like a louder wild cat screaming versus a tiger roaring.
That said, the bass is different. On CC it is spongy, smooth, not in your face as in a5 #43 hot pickups. It is not that defined, but there is bass! And there are highs, plenty of them. A5's have more uppermids, hence that nasal scream that gets annoying with #43 a5 hot pickups (just my humble opinion) with high DC values.
I used a BBQ for a long time, over two years. I had 2sets one of which I still keep. I traded one set here (Mac-P remember ?). BBQ is a weird pickup. Lots of uppermids, noticeably less highs, not much lower mids and plenty of in your face bass. It reminds me to a dark 498T! I used to love the BBQ for the aggressive tone it has, think of a dark but nasal scream. In fact early 90's ACDC work features lots of that. Another problem is that BBQ has too focused tone I think. Yet it is not that defined. So that's why I say it is somewhat weird.
BTW in the tips clips I have some clips of my CC/PGn set and BBQ/TExas set.
B
A side note: C5 in a fat LP bridge with a marshall or bassman does have a lot of mids. In fact then CC might become a little blurry. And for the inbetween cases A3 is the one to have! My favorite so far, against c5 and c2.
dr.barlo
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
Mac-P, swapping the magnet is not that difficult. If you like your JB so much, and need a little more low-mids, less in your face bass, and less uppermids, I would suggest getting some a4's if you can find them, and a3's, and trying that JB of yours with those magnets.
A jump from JB to CC would be quite a change.
Mac-P, swapping the magnet is not that difficult. If you like your JB so much, and need a little more low-mids, less in your face bass, and less uppermids, I would suggest getting some a4's if you can find them, and a3's, and trying that JB of yours with those magnets.
A jump from JB to CC would be quite a change.
papersoul
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
I think you nailed it when you said Malcolm's tone and the BBQ as heavy and dark. That is exactly what i go for with our band....it works well with our style. It made a big difference in my dean Evo Premium but honestly that guitar is so dark on its own.......the BBQ was a little overkill. I think the BBQ might balance better in my Les Paul which is brighter and lively. I had practice last night with the stock Burstbucker Pros and I can't wait to replace these pickups. My biggest fear is that I'll go around and around and never find the right pickups for this LP. I had the same experience with my Hamer Studio.
The thing with my LP is that it sounds tight and clear, but rather thin and brittle. I need a BIGGER tone for sure. I am waiting to get a Custom from ebay as a test.
EVH5150 said:
I think you nailed it when you said Malcolm's tone and the BBQ as heavy and dark. That is exactly what i go for with our band....it works well with our style. It made a big difference in my dean Evo Premium but honestly that guitar is so dark on its own.......the BBQ was a little overkill. I think the BBQ might balance better in my Les Paul which is brighter and lively. I had practice last night with the stock Burstbucker Pros and I can't wait to replace these pickups. My biggest fear is that I'll go around and around and never find the right pickups for this LP. I had the same experience with my Hamer Studio.
The thing with my LP is that it sounds tight and clear, but rather thin and brittle. I need a BIGGER tone for sure. I am waiting to get a Custom from ebay as a test.
papersoul
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
Mac, I really think warmer and thicker in the bridge is the Rio BBQ. I say try it....you might just find your pickup.
You say you hated the C-5....but that was in an SG? I think it balanced a million times better in a Les Paul because of the huge mids of most Pauls.
But, I like you....tend to lean toward a pickup with more mids. That is a big reason I want to try the Custom. Many people say the Custom is like the JB but with less highs, and more lower mids. Also I hear it is warmer than the JB and C-5. We'll see.
What didn't you like about the Custom?
Doc,
Any thoughts in my case? I do hear ya on the BBQ. The one thing I miss is the tight low end. Remember I am playing a very heavy style but I do need a nice thick clean in the bridge. My next test is the C-5 in my Les Paul. This is not a heavy LP....more like 8 lbs and very lively in tone. I am hoping it has enough mids to fill out the C-5.
You have me intrigued over the C-3.
Mac, I really think warmer and thicker in the bridge is the Rio BBQ. I say try it....you might just find your pickup.
You say you hated the C-5....but that was in an SG? I think it balanced a million times better in a Les Paul because of the huge mids of most Pauls.
But, I like you....tend to lean toward a pickup with more mids. That is a big reason I want to try the Custom. Many people say the Custom is like the JB but with less highs, and more lower mids. Also I hear it is warmer than the JB and C-5. We'll see.
What didn't you like about the Custom?
Doc,
Any thoughts in my case? I do hear ya on the BBQ. The one thing I miss is the tight low end. Remember I am playing a very heavy style but I do need a nice thick clean in the bridge. My next test is the C-5 in my Les Paul. This is not a heavy LP....more like 8 lbs and very lively in tone. I am hoping it has enough mids to fill out the C-5.
You have me intrigued over the C-3.
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Mac-P
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
Hey Doc (it's so much fun to say that),
Yea, I remember that whole BBQ/C5 thing way back when.
As far as changing my JB, I love the sound of this JB and would never f*ck with it. It is a vintage pre-logo JB from the 80's. First pickup I ever bought. It sounds amazing. Just looking for an even bigger, rounder tone. And really just looking for a stock pickup that I don't have to alter. I need to pop it in there and play. Not into experimenting with different magnet types unless it becomes crucial.
What is so much different between a JB and CC? How would you describe it? Also, people are still mentioning the C5 and BBQ in the same breath. Are they similar? Because to my ears, the C5 (and I've heard many of them) is anything but big sounding. Maybe with no band, but in a band mix that lack of mids leaves treble and bass. And the bass is coverd up by the bass player, leaving a thin sort of Kirk Hammet tone. Bla. Not my thing.
So we are clear on my personal definition of "big": Lots of midrange. Nice healthy lower midrange, and a clear vocal like mid and upper midrange. Think a saxophone or a human voice. Lots of rich harmonic mid content. Clarity should come from the upper midrange and not the treble. A "BIG" sounding pickup sounds thick and prominant in the mix with a BAND. Single notes should be WIDE and vocal sounding. Take a solo after the tenor sax player. How is your tone?
THAT is what big is about to me.
So, is the BBQ "big" by that definition? The C5 definitely is NOT. Very small indeed. Not vocal at all.
And as far as a C5 being better in a Les Paul, well, that may be true, but the pickup STILL is scooping out those mids. I have heard plenty of Les Pauls where the bridge tone is squeeky and small.
And this is just taste mid you. Many people LOVE the C5. Not I. For what I like in a guitar sound, I can't imagine it sounding good to my ears in any guitar.
As far as the Custom, I had one in this same SG. The JB has MUCH more mid content and is much warmer (and bigger) than the custom. The custom has more highs and is much crunchier and "harder" sounding. Much brighter.
The ceramic magnet in the Custom is NOT going to sound as sweet as the JB. The JB is also "bigger" in my book. Single notes are wider with less treble than the Custom. I liked the Custom more than the C5 (much more), but the JB is the biggest tone of the 3 to these ears.
That's why I am currently interested in either the CC or BBQ. Looking for the w-i-d-e-s-t , thickest, warmest pickup with the most vocal sound on single notes. Think Saxophone. :burnout:
dr.barlo said:
Hey Doc (it's so much fun to say that),
Yea, I remember that whole BBQ/C5 thing way back when.
As far as changing my JB, I love the sound of this JB and would never f*ck with it. It is a vintage pre-logo JB from the 80's. First pickup I ever bought. It sounds amazing. Just looking for an even bigger, rounder tone. And really just looking for a stock pickup that I don't have to alter. I need to pop it in there and play. Not into experimenting with different magnet types unless it becomes crucial.
What is so much different between a JB and CC? How would you describe it? Also, people are still mentioning the C5 and BBQ in the same breath. Are they similar? Because to my ears, the C5 (and I've heard many of them) is anything but big sounding. Maybe with no band, but in a band mix that lack of mids leaves treble and bass. And the bass is coverd up by the bass player, leaving a thin sort of Kirk Hammet tone. Bla. Not my thing.
So we are clear on my personal definition of "big": Lots of midrange. Nice healthy lower midrange, and a clear vocal like mid and upper midrange. Think a saxophone or a human voice. Lots of rich harmonic mid content. Clarity should come from the upper midrange and not the treble. A "BIG" sounding pickup sounds thick and prominant in the mix with a BAND. Single notes should be WIDE and vocal sounding. Take a solo after the tenor sax player. How is your tone?
THAT is what big is about to me.So, is the BBQ "big" by that definition? The C5 definitely is NOT. Very small indeed. Not vocal at all.
papersoul said:
And as far as a C5 being better in a Les Paul, well, that may be true, but the pickup STILL is scooping out those mids. I have heard plenty of Les Pauls where the bridge tone is squeeky and small.
And this is just taste mid you. Many people LOVE the C5. Not I. For what I like in a guitar sound, I can't imagine it sounding good to my ears in any guitar.
As far as the Custom, I had one in this same SG. The JB has MUCH more mid content and is much warmer (and bigger) than the custom. The custom has more highs and is much crunchier and "harder" sounding. Much brighter.
The ceramic magnet in the Custom is NOT going to sound as sweet as the JB. The JB is also "bigger" in my book. Single notes are wider with less treble than the Custom. I liked the Custom more than the C5 (much more), but the JB is the biggest tone of the 3 to these ears.
That's why I am currently interested in either the CC or BBQ. Looking for the w-i-d-e-s-t , thickest, warmest pickup with the most vocal sound on single notes. Think Saxophone. :burnout:
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papersoul
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
Mac buddy.....to me ears, you are describing the BBQ perfectly. Keep in mind I have yet to hear the CC. To me the BBQ is ridiculously big in a band mix and notes are wide like the JB but everything sounds warmer and deeper. Doc, may greatly disagree but again I have no experience with the CC in my guitars. I have heard it briefly in a friends Ibanez and it sounded great. I had compared it to a JB in my Hamer. Hard to say which is better.
The thing that keeps me from the CC is that a friend tried it in his Les Paul and said it sounded too 80s, so he went back to the C-5. To me the BBQ sounds thicker and meatier than the C-5.
One pickup you might want to consider as I is the Wagner Fillmore. Some say the best HB you can buy.
Mac, I should say I am right in line with your thinking and I think you and I like the same type of p'ups. The one thing I need is a tight bottom. Take all that you said you like in a pickup and add a tight bottom and SIGN ME UP!
That is what people are saying about the Fillmore. The BBQ bottom is rather round.
Keep in mind my LP is very lively and deep sounding, but rather light at 8 lbs. I am happy it is so lively and clear but I too want a thick, wide, and warm pickup to compliment it.
Mac buddy.....to me ears, you are describing the BBQ perfectly. Keep in mind I have yet to hear the CC. To me the BBQ is ridiculously big in a band mix and notes are wide like the JB but everything sounds warmer and deeper. Doc, may greatly disagree but again I have no experience with the CC in my guitars. I have heard it briefly in a friends Ibanez and it sounded great. I had compared it to a JB in my Hamer. Hard to say which is better.
The thing that keeps me from the CC is that a friend tried it in his Les Paul and said it sounded too 80s, so he went back to the C-5. To me the BBQ sounds thicker and meatier than the C-5.
One pickup you might want to consider as I is the Wagner Fillmore. Some say the best HB you can buy.
Mac, I should say I am right in line with your thinking and I think you and I like the same type of p'ups. The one thing I need is a tight bottom. Take all that you said you like in a pickup and add a tight bottom and SIGN ME UP!
That is what people are saying about the Fillmore. The BBQ bottom is rather round.
Keep in mind my LP is very lively and deep sounding, but rather light at 8 lbs. I am happy it is so lively and clear but I too want a thick, wide, and warm pickup to compliment it.
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Mac-P
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
I have an Air Zone and a DiMarzio Breed Bridge as well. Both are amazing pickups.
As a matter of fact, the Breed bridge is the pickup in the bridge position of the SG in my picture to the left there (Pearly Gates neck).
Both the Breed and Air Zone are warm, clear, and beautiful sounding. I have nothing but good things to say about both pickups. The best two humbuckers DiMarzio makes IMHO.
This other SG I am talking about right now has a Duncan '59 neck and JB bridge. I want to keep this guitar "non-DiMarzio". I would have said keep the guitar "Duncan-only", but the Rio Grande is in consideration, so.......
Nothing against the DiMarzios. I was just interested in the two pickups that I haven't tried yet: the Rio BBQ and Duncan CC.
Any more input?
papersoul said:
I have an Air Zone and a DiMarzio Breed Bridge as well. Both are amazing pickups.
As a matter of fact, the Breed bridge is the pickup in the bridge position of the SG in my picture to the left there (Pearly Gates neck).
Both the Breed and Air Zone are warm, clear, and beautiful sounding. I have nothing but good things to say about both pickups. The best two humbuckers DiMarzio makes IMHO.
This other SG I am talking about right now has a Duncan '59 neck and JB bridge. I want to keep this guitar "non-DiMarzio". I would have said keep the guitar "Duncan-only", but the Rio Grande is in consideration, so.......
Nothing against the DiMarzios. I was just interested in the two pickups that I haven't tried yet: the Rio BBQ and Duncan CC.
Any more input?
papersoul
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Re: Which is a warmer pickup: Duncan CC or Rio BBQ?
Have you thought about the Fillmore?? I hear amazing things about it.
getting back to the Air Zone. Would you say it is as warm as the JB? Good for clean, rhythm, and lead? Big tone? I hear negative things about Dimarzio and I'd like to get past that. Would it work in a lively sounding LP?
Have you thought about the Fillmore?? I hear amazing things about it.
getting back to the Air Zone. Would you say it is as warm as the JB? Good for clean, rhythm, and lead? Big tone? I hear negative things about Dimarzio and I'd like to get past that. Would it work in a lively sounding LP?
