Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
I was wondering what kind of chord (non-power chords) is very often used in rock and hard rock and why.... so... tell me 
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Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
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seafoamer
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Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
Barre Chord
Barre Chord
Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
Arghghg This wasn't what I meant...
Arghghg This wasn't what I meant...
Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
ok well... so... let's go back to the real topic...
ok well... so... let's go back to the real topic...
Kamanda~SD
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Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
Theres these ones called... hmm.. let's se.. uhh.. INVERTED power chords (aka perfect 4ths) are used alot by richie blackmore, theres some other "shapes" used commonly on the D-G strings but I don't know there names, hope this helps a bit.
Theres these ones called... hmm.. let's se.. uhh.. INVERTED power chords (aka perfect 4ths) are used alot by richie blackmore, theres some other "shapes" used commonly on the D-G strings but I don't know there names, hope this helps a bit.
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seafoamer
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Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
I actually wasn't joking. A power chord is Root-5. A Barre chord is Root-5-root-3-5-1.
They are different thingamabobas.
I actually wasn't joking. A power chord is Root-5. A Barre chord is Root-5-root-3-5-1.
They are different thingamabobas.
shredaholic
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Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
a barre chord is the name for an open chord thats shifted up the neck, to change what chord it is (in terms of note name, eg Am to Cm). you can play many types of chords as barres, eg. maj7, min7, dom7, maj, min
seafoamer said:
a barre chord is the name for an open chord thats shifted up the neck, to change what chord it is (in terms of note name, eg Am to Cm). you can play many types of chords as barres, eg. maj7, min7, dom7, maj, min
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seafoamer
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Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
True dat, baby pops! I was just trying to show the difference between a power chord and a (type of) barre chord.
shredaholic said:
True dat, baby pops! I was just trying to show the difference between a power chord and a (type of) barre chord.
Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
I know the difference but knowing that they play barre chords alot is no special help buddy
I know the difference but knowing that they play barre chords alot is no special help buddy
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seafoamer
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Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
Of course it's not the "special" help. If I went around givin' ppl the "special" help all the time, what the hell would my edge be then???
Kommerzbassist said:I know the difference but knowing that they play barre chords alot is no special help buddy
Of course it's not the "special" help. If I went around givin' ppl the "special" help all the time, what the hell would my edge be then???
Xeromus
Tone Ninja
Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
It's no good foamy cause the majority of guitarists don't know how to build chords or scales. They just learn the shapes. When I teach someone guitar I don't even give them chord shapes or scale patterns. I teach them intervals. And what intervals are the building blocks of scales and chords. From there they can build them themselves. I find if people learn boxes first it severely limits them.
seafoamer said:
It's no good foamy cause the majority of guitarists don't know how to build chords or scales. They just learn the shapes. When I teach someone guitar I don't even give them chord shapes or scale patterns. I teach them intervals. And what intervals are the building blocks of scales and chords. From there they can build them themselves. I find if people learn boxes first it severely limits them.
Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
:smack: you're always so... yourself
seafoamer said:
:smack: you're always so... yourself
Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
Could you explain that further please?
Xeromus said:
Could you explain that further please?
Xeromus
Tone Ninja
Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
I don't mean it to sound condescending.
Say someone knows the intervals of a major scale, w-w-h-w-w-w-h. w=whole step h= half step. Given they have basic knowledge of the notes on the fretboard they can then play a major scale anywhere on the neck starting from any note. If I tell them that each mode starts on a different scale degree of the major scale they can then play any mode starting on any note on the fretboard. Phrygian for example starts on the 3rd scale degree of major. h-w-w-w-h-w-w. Those are the intervals.
For chords: They can be looked at as scale degrees stacked upon one another. Your normal power chords are simply root and fifth, or root, root doubled, and fifth. Say if a student understands how to create a diminished chord. Two minor thirds stacked upon one another. A minor third is a major third reduced by a half step. With some thinking they can contruct that chord on the fretboard on their own.
This is how you come up with cool voices and such that you would never otherwise understand how to construct.
Kommerzbassist said:
I don't mean it to sound condescending.
Say someone knows the intervals of a major scale, w-w-h-w-w-w-h. w=whole step h= half step. Given they have basic knowledge of the notes on the fretboard they can then play a major scale anywhere on the neck starting from any note. If I tell them that each mode starts on a different scale degree of the major scale they can then play any mode starting on any note on the fretboard. Phrygian for example starts on the 3rd scale degree of major. h-w-w-w-h-w-w. Those are the intervals.
For chords: They can be looked at as scale degrees stacked upon one another. Your normal power chords are simply root and fifth, or root, root doubled, and fifth. Say if a student understands how to create a diminished chord. Two minor thirds stacked upon one another. A minor third is a major third reduced by a half step. With some thinking they can contruct that chord on the fretboard on their own.
This is how you come up with cool voices and such that you would never otherwise understand how to construct.
Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
Sorry, but I didn't get the thing with the intervals... I think... could you explain as simple as it gets for a dumb ass like me please?
Xeromus said:
Sorry, but I didn't get the thing with the intervals... I think... could you explain as simple as it gets for a dumb ass like me please?
y2stevo
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Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
Intervals are the same as the meaning of the word,there the actual difference between notes on the fretboard or piano..e.g like Xero said the intervals of the major scale would be... w-w-h-w-w-w-h ... so say were in the Key of C.the notes in the scale of Cmajor would be C D E F G A B.So..the difference between C to D is a Whole Tone/whole step (same thing) as if it were a Half Tone then the notes would actually be C to C#,as C to C# is only a half tone.thats basically the deal with Intervals, so then D to E is A Whole Tone, E to F is A Half Tone (since theres no such thing as E# or Fb) etc etc. so on and so forth..
Hope that helps!
haha, love the sig!! :laugh2:Kommerzbassist said:
Intervals are the same as the meaning of the word,there the actual difference between notes on the fretboard or piano..e.g like Xero said the intervals of the major scale would be... w-w-h-w-w-w-h ... so say were in the Key of C.the notes in the scale of Cmajor would be C D E F G A B.So..the difference between C to D is a Whole Tone/whole step (same thing) as if it were a Half Tone then the notes would actually be C to C#,as C to C# is only a half tone.thats basically the deal with Intervals, so then D to E is A Whole Tone, E to F is A Half Tone (since theres no such thing as E# or Fb) etc etc. so on and so forth..
Hope that helps!
Quencho092
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Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
i really dont know that much about intervals and theory, but i can 'ear construct' modes using the major and minor scale flavors on almost any key.
i really dont know that much about intervals and theory, but i can 'ear construct' modes using the major and minor scale flavors on almost any key.
shred me good
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Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?
i see the problem here!!!
its in the aim - rock chord, not power chord..... nope
im not wanting to sound like i dont like rock, i love rock. id like to BE rock oneday.
BUT
most of rock IS just powed chords!
you want a new chord, i gues thats cos ur bored of just doing powed chords all the time. well i say if thats the case ur probably bored of most rock.
sorry!
if u want new chords, new sounds, try diferent styles of music, its the only way.
if you want new odd sounds i surgest learning some jazz chords.
dont be put off by the name, just cos these chords lend themselfs to jazz dosent mean they cant sound like heavy rock in the right place.
untill you learn to apreciate new genres (as that involves downloading or borrowing cds etc) just try putting ur fingers in random places on the fretboard. if it sounds bad, find which note sounds the worst and move it up or down a fret or 2 until it sounds nice. that way you can invent a million chords.
i see the problem here!!!
its in the aim - rock chord, not power chord..... nope
im not wanting to sound like i dont like rock, i love rock. id like to BE rock oneday.
BUT
most of rock IS just powed chords!
you want a new chord, i gues thats cos ur bored of just doing powed chords all the time. well i say if thats the case ur probably bored of most rock.
sorry!
if u want new chords, new sounds, try diferent styles of music, its the only way.
if you want new odd sounds i surgest learning some jazz chords.
dont be put off by the name, just cos these chords lend themselfs to jazz dosent mean they cant sound like heavy rock in the right place.
untill you learn to apreciate new genres (as that involves downloading or borrowing cds etc) just try putting ur fingers in random places on the fretboard. if it sounds bad, find which note sounds the worst and move it up or down a fret or 2 until it sounds nice. that way you can invent a million chords.
