Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?

[WaR HeaD]

Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?

the big challenge is actually applying all this theory to the fretboard. That's the hard part and I still have a lot of trouble with it even.

The beauty of the guitar is that most chords DO have the same shape. Unlike piano, where the same chord played in different keys is a different shape. On guitar a G major and E major are the same, unlike piano.

hey dude...you're a great guitar teacher ...you explained it the same way as my actual teacher did (building chords and scales with intervals, although it´s always good to have the modal/pentatonic shapes just to practice picking techniques, imo)...and thats the correct way to learn guitar (not to play songs only)

but...btw

van halen/yngwie kind of rhythm chord

play

e-x
b-6
g-7
D-7
A-x
E-x

then

e-x
b-5
g-5
D-5
A-x
E-x

then

e-x
b-3
g-4
D-5
A-x
E-x

instead of

e-x
b-x
g-7
D-7
A-5
E-x

then

e-x
b-x
g-5
D-5
A-3
E-x

then

e-x
b-x
g-x
D-5
A-5
E-3

or play this D chord

D
e-x
b-3
g-2
D-0
A-0
E-x

instead of this one

D
e-x
b-x
g-7
D-7
A-5
E-5

that sounds awesome in rock...a lot better than power chords imo

 

[shred me good]

Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?

Coming at the guitar after a couple of other intruments -- neither of them primarily concerned with chordal playing -- I had a strange time adapting my knowledge of intervals and scales to playing chords. It wasn't until I bought a cheap chord book that had the basic, everyday voicings that I was able to make much headway. Sure, since I knew what notes made up a G chord, I could play one, but the way in which I built it was nowhere near as comfortable, convenient (in relation to moving quickly to other chords) or as full sounding as the traditional open voiced G. I think that learning basic shapes can, in that case, be very helpful.

yes.
but also most guitarests get very limed before they realise they can make all of there well known open chords into odly voiced alternative shapes.
originality comes when you make a choice, the more choice you have, the more original will be.
in my opinion it is almost esential to be able to play all chords in all positions imaginable for this reason-

i bet satch can!!

but seriously, that is a very good thing to spend your time doing

 

[slash857]

Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?

a popular bar chord alteration is the 7th , you probably already know this its very common. for example a normal major would be

GM G7th G Dominant 7th

3 3 3
3 3 6
4 4 4
5 3 3
5 5 5
3 3 3


the 7this derived from the normal major barre by moving the octave note back to the 7th note. (g to f) i dont remember how the dom7th is derived, lol, i use it sometimes though for a different jazzy feel. im sure someone here remember how its derived.

 

[y2stevo]

Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?

a popular bar chord alteration is the 7th , you probably already know this its very common. for example a normal major would be

GM G7th G Dominant 7th

3 3 3
3 3 6
4 4 4
5 3 3
5 5 5
3 3 3


the 7this derived from the normal major barre by moving the octave note back to the 7th note. (g to f) i dont remember how the dom7th is derived, lol, i use it sometimes though for a different jazzy feel. im sure someone here remember how its derived.

If im not mistaken tho G7 means the Dominant 7 chord aswell.so the two last chords there are the same only the last one has the flat7 in two places but there still the same chord.
The GM7 is a chord with intervals 1-3-5-7,which i think is what you meant by saying a G7th?.And your dominant,G7 there are derived with intervals 1-3-5-b7.

So then for your barre chords
the GM7 would be
-3---
-3---
-4---
-4---
-5---
-3---

and the Dominant, the G7 would be

-3---
-3---
-4---
-3---
-5---
-3---

 

[marvar]

Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?

E and A played in the root positions(1st and 2nd fret) are the most used/popular non-power chords in rock. I think this is what he was asking.

 

[Kommerzbassist]

Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?

wow... much new info here...I'm tryin' to get through all that... meanwhile thanks

 

[MattPete]

Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?

D-G-B string triads! (see EVH).

 

[MattPete]

Re: Which is the most often used/suitable type of (non-power) chord for rock?

Here's the basic DGB triads. Move the shape up and down the neck like a barre chord. I've thrown in the GBE triads (last group) for good measure

--------------------
Group 1: (root would be at a1, but usually isn't played)

Major (root is played on G3. Actually, the root is one octave below, but isn't played).

E...x
B...3 (major 3rd octave)
G...3 (root octave)
D...3 (5th octave)
A...x (root would be A1)
E...x

Minor (root is played on G3. Actually, the root is one octave below, but isn't played).

E...x
B...2 (minor 3rd octave)
G...3 (root octave)
D...3 (5th)
A...x (root would be A1)
E...x

Suspended (root is played on G3. Actually, the root is one octave below, but isn't played).

E...x
B...2 (?)
G...3 (root octave)
D...3 (5th)
A...x (root would be A1)
E...x
--------------------
Group 2: (root would be at e1, but usually isn't played)

Major (root is played on d3. Actually, the root is one octave below, but isn't played).

E...x
B...1 (5th octave)
G...2 (major 3rd octave)
D...3 (root octave)
A...x
E...x (root would be E1)

Minor (root is played on d3. Actually, the root is one octave below, but isn't played).

E...x
B...1 (5th octave)
G...1 (minor 3rd octave)
D...3 (root octave)
A...x
E...x (root would be E1)

Suspended (root is played on d3. Actually, the root is one octave below, but isn't played).

E...x
B...1 (5th octave)
G...3 (4th??)
D...3 (root octave)
A...x
E...x (root would be E1)
-------------------
Group 3: (root would be at d1, but usually isn't played)

Major (root is played on d3. Actually, the root is one octave below, but isn't played).

E...3 (major 3rd octave)
B...4 (root octave)
G...3 (5th)
D...x (root would be D1)
A...x
E...x

Minor (root is played on d3. Actually, the root is one octave below, but isn't played).

E...2 (minor 3rd octave)
B...4 (root octave)
G...3
D...x (root would be D1)
A...x
E...x

Suspended (root is played on d3. Actually, the root is one octave below, but isn't played).

E...4 (4th??? octave)
B...4 (root octave)
G...3 (5th)
D...x (root would be D1)
A...x
E...x