which les paul standard?

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Hey complain to the British people that invaded this land 400 years ago and cultivated it. They left their language here, and "colour" is part of it. I guess I'm just used to using Canadian spelling as it looks more familiar to me and makes more sense (except centre, which is spelt that way to eliminate have to put center and centre on arenas, cause the bilingual laws).

i think bigalthebird was only just kidding..:confused:
 
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EveryMn, I've liked you and agreed with you very much up until now. But (besides a few Gretsches), Les Pauls are by a great margin the best guitars in the world. People who buy Strats listen to crappy music, or aren't willing to fork out $3K for a guitar, but even most of them will agree that LPs are the best guitars in the world. Perhaps they just realize they can't harness the awesomeness that is an LP.

LPs would be the perfect if they had the cleans of Strats (or single coils in general). That's why P90 or minibucker (Deluxe) LPs are my personal favorite.

I love SGs as much as most people, I really like them a lot. But LPs are far and away better!
You sir, are wrong.
 
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Sorry I was so mistaken! At least I have someone as kind and benevolent, and well I'll say it - dashing! If I didn't have men like you, bigalthethird, in my life, well I'd be nothing.

Thanks dude! I think you went a little overboard, but your comments are appreciated! Don't say stuff like that too often though, or people will label you as Odie Jr!
 
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Thanks dude! I think you went a little overboard, but your comments are appreciated! Don't say stuff like that too often though, or people will label you as Odie Jr!
That's tampering with evidence, son. I could book you on that.
 
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I'm from the old school. A Standard has to have rosewood (Customes have Ebony) And I would go with a burst. It really don't matter which one.... they are all pretty! Some of them won't require a pickup change either, bit if you do feel that the pickups need improving on, I would recommend a set of AlnicoII pros. Very versatile and really warm tone!

+1
 
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Seriously -- and from much personal experience -- if you can live with either color, go with the individual instrument with the least manufacturing and detailing defects.

The last (and probably final) time I hard-shopped for Gibson Les Paul Standard and Standard+ models was several years ago when I went to Guitar Center with $3K in cash with the intention of buying one during a sale. LPs are too heavy for me now, but I had more money than I knew what to do with at the time and hadn't had a LPS for a few years.

I looked at seventeen (17) Standard and Standard+ (MSRP $3875 at that time) instruments, and not a single one met the quality control standards I expect of $500 imports, and some were utterly shocking. Only one had decent binding detailing, for example, but it had a headstock that had been badly dinged before the finish had been applied and the string track was badly misaligned with the neck. I left in disgust. Nothing seems to have significantly changed since then. Despite their hype and ad copy, Gibson, Inc. simply won't spend the money on the hand labor needed for quality detail work because they don't have to. I swear, they will ship anything...and some fanboy will buy it. Fanboys will even weave elaborate denials and justifications for quality lapses, like the deluded idiot a few years ago who tried to tell me that Gibson's typically horrible binding detailing was a feature, not a bug. :rolleyes:

None of this is news to people who know guitars. You want a Les Paul Standard or higher model, you just have to find the best one you can, pay the ridiculous price and learn to live with the small stuff. If you want clean work, there's always Custom Shop output, I suppose.

Sad. It's a classic design fallen victim to rapacious corporate production and marketing practices. :(
 
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cheapest and best. preferrably with good frets and plays well. I prefer tobacco bursts and black. creme pups would go great.
 
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I have a 2004 and a 1994 Standard but one problem I always find is the G string goes out of tune a lot with heavy bends. :banghead:
 
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Easy...right here:

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http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=247658

Killer deal :deal: :headbang:

Steve E
 
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By virtue of you spelling "color" with a u, you are hereby disqualified from ever posting here again. You might have to give up your right to live, the jury's still out on that.

By spelling it right you mean?

Oh yeah, and I vote ebony. I love me a black LP.
 
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I own a desert burst Les Paul Standard Plus and I "loved" (noticed I said loved) that guitar. At the time when I bought it the sound was unbelievable and I loved how it felt. It resonated and sustained incredibly. I then had the chance of playing a Dean USA Hardtail and this guitar with the ebony fretboard just blew away the Les Paul in sound and quality, so of course I bought that guitar. I still own my Les Paul and even played it last week, but I am now always let down with the sound/tone of this guitar. I am thinking of maybe changing out the Humbuckers and maybe this will help me fall back in "love" with the Les Paul. Like many others said, don't buy a guitar just because of the looks. Looks do help, but the deciding factor should always be the guitar's feel, sound and even finish that should finalize your decision. Like in my case, I still like my Les Paul but will probably experiment in changing its sound with a Humbucker upgrade.

Best of luck.
 
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