Which low output 'bucker for hard rock/metal?

FamousForSustain

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Here's a spin on the time-honored "Pick a Metal Pup" poll which I don't believe I've seen done on here: which of SD's low-output offerings gives a good metal tone when pushed by a pedal or amp (yes, I know that's kinda backwards, but you know what I mean)?
 
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FamousForSustain said:
Here's a spin on the time-honored "Pick a Metal Pup" poll which I don't believe I've seen done on here: which of SD's low-output offerings gives a good metal tone when pushed by a pedal or amp (yes, I know that's kinda backwards, but you know what I mean)?

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Pearly Gates and Pearly Gates + are my faves for hard rock and metal in a Gibson style axe.
 
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59 has worked well for me. I've had 'em in Les Pauls and in a Heritage HC150 (Les Paul copy), and they ripped through my 1987x. With some amp fiddling and a good pedal I could get really good "brown sounds", Adrian Smith tones, Lizzy crunch, Sabbath filth , anything Schenker,....etc etc etc. They have tighter bass due to the A5 magnet. are a little bright and not quite as "vintagey" or warm sounding as say a Seth or APII, so they tend to work better for hard rock/metal.

They don't have much in the way of mids...but dropped in a Paul w/ it's complex mids, and through a NMV Marshall with it's complex mids you get some serious crunch for riffs and chords and then a good goose with a TS9 is all ya need for leads. That was my fave rig for several years when I was able to crank that 1987X.
 
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I was suprised to find that my classic cover 59 pickups do metal pretty well. Great harmonics too. Clean they do Jazz really well, but when I turn on the distortion, they really scream.
 
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JeffB said:
59 has worked well for me. I've had 'em in Les Pauls and in a Heritage HC150 (Les Paul copy), and they ripped through my 1987x. With some amp fiddling and a good pedal I could get really good "brown sounds", Adrian Smith tones, Lizzy crunch, Sabbath filth , anything Schenker,....etc etc etc. They have tighter bass due to the A5 magnet. are a little bright and not quite as "vintagey" or warm sounding as say a Seth or APII, so they tend to work better for hard rock/metal.

They don't have much in the way of mids...but dropped in a Paul w/ it's complex mids, and through a NMV Marshall with it's complex mids you get some serious crunch for riffs and chords and then a good goose with a TS9 is all ya need for leads. That was my fave rig for several years when I was able to crank that 1987X.


I heard the '59 is more along the lines of a gibby T-top only it has a full size 5 instead of the t top's smaller 5?
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The Little '59 in my Strat pulls off some good metal tones. Let the amp do the work, and mine does it very well.
 
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really any pup that is balanced tonally will do metal(slayer, ozzy,judas priest,maiden,metallica) regardless of it's output
i go for clarity,tone curve,warmth, i dont care if it is hot as a EMG 81 as weak as a jazz
 
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I'd say the '59B too. It's like an early 60's Gibson pickup like Eric Clapton would've had in his SG with Cream, but just a bit stronger than most of them. Great pickup! Don't believe anyone that claims it has scooped mids either...it's a very vocal pickup, especially through a cranked Marshall, class A or cathode biased amp. Lew
 
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Demons sound heavier than 59's. Alot fuller with Growl. And I EQ tmy amp 7 bass, 6 mids and 7 high.

They need to rename the Screamin Demon pup to "the Demon". Its just plain evil in an SG.
 
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I'd say 59b or screamin' demon, but mr. jazz-lover(forum member 'jolly') might have a different opinion.

and BTW, why low output? because it hasn't be covered much before?
 
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Twilight, where did you get that pickguard? That is so cool.
 
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ErikH said:
Twilight, where did you get that pickguard? That is so cool.
Thanx! I got the scratchplate from www.pickguards.com. You select the layout and then the graphic, and then they make it for you. It coast about $40, IIRC + All Parts screws in black were another $16 @ Manny's in NYC.

It looks much cooler in person, actually, because the graphic is on the back of the scratch plate, and it is actually clear with the graphic on the bottom; this way it doesn't scratch off, since it's not on the surface, and it has a cool, 3-D look, too!!
 
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TwilightOdyssey said:
Thanx! I got the scratchplate from www.pickguards.com. You select the layout and then the graphic, and then they make it for you. It coast about $40, IIRC + All Parts screws in black were another $16 @ Manny's in NYC.

It looks much cooler in person, actually, because the graphic is on the back of the scratch plate, and it is actually clear with the graphic on the bottom; this way it doesn't scratch off, since it's not on the surface, and it has a cool, 3-D look, too!!
Very cool. I need to check them out.
 
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