Which pickup's name is more unrepresentative? Jazz or Demon?

Which pickup's name is more unrepresentative? Jazz or Demon?

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Xeromus

Xeromus

Tone Ninja
I find the Screamin' Demon' to be one of the milder of a lot of Duncans bridge pickups and the Jazz to be one rockin' neck pickup. I think this makes a lot of newbies and and buyers in general to say oh Jazz, that pickup is too wimpy for me, it has to be HEAVY! Or oh cool Screamin' Demon that must RAWK Heavy metal baby!

Newbies is not a derogatory term just those that don't know the Duncan products well aside from their respective names. So whatcha guys think of my stupid poll eh? Is it super stupid, or super extra dumb stupid? (I should make a poll for that too)
 
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I guess I'm one of the few that was a little disappointed with the Screamin' Demon as well. I went from a stock MIJ Jackson pickup to a Demon thinking that something called a Screamin' Demon designed for the man (Lynch) himself would launch my sound into the stratosphere. Didn't happen. Later on (got onto this board) did I find out that the SD is really not considered an ultra-high gain pickup. What I should have got was a Distortion or a Custom to get the sound I was seeking. Later on I find out that Lynch used a Distortion for much of his work, along with tons and tons of gear. But, after some tweaking I came to realize the Demon (for me at least, and this is my opinion, and I'm not really all that experienced with this stuff **** caveat *****) sort of needs some serious gain behind it like a TS-9 in front or the gain all the way up to get to the level of his Lynchness. However, once you're there, it does have some serious harmonics going on.

I just purchased a Jazz, and I'm hoping it's sort of a mellow pickup that gives a good clean sound in the neck.

The best advice for anyone looking into pickups is to hang out at this place for about a month.
 
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I'd say the Jazz...because the Screamin' Demon is a rock pickup and the name fits.

The Jazz name makes people who play hard rock afraid to try it and in truth, the Jazz is a great neck pickup for rock or blues or jazz.

Lew
 
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I don't think either name is that unrepresentative, The Screamin Demon does just that...it has those screaming harmonics and crunchy distorted sounds...and the Jazz, though it can rock, also sounds incredible played clean.

But I voted Demon myself.:rolleyes:
 
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Good point about the names. I think that because of the way certain pups are marketed I wouldn't think twice about 'em. Jazz and Demon are both good examples. Invader and FullShred are others. And there's no way I'd ever consider anything called a Dimebucker or Twang Banger. They're probably all great, versatile pups but they're named sort of like toys. Don't get me wrong though, I wouldn't like to see them all referred to their code numbers. That'd just be boring. It's sort of like cars. Mustang will always sound cooler than SRX. Custom, Pearly Gates, Alnico II Pro, '59 all work well though.
 
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I always thought the Custom was the most unrepresentative name. How can something that's a production model be "custom?" ;)
 
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The Screamin' Demon isn't by any means a low-output pickup. Neither is it "wimpy". It's a great hard rock pickup, but in a different sense than some people might expect. It's not as shrill or biting as some people like... personally, I happen to like the low-fi growl. I don't think it's too gentle... it's just more snarly and less bitey than what some people want. They could have called it "Bad Dog" or "Growler" or something like that (probably not actually). "Screamin' Demon" sounds like an EMG that was custom made for Slayer or something.
 
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I think the Jazz. It's my favorite pickup in the neck and bridge, and I play nothing remotely close to jazz music.
 
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Being a Screamin Demon user I think it should just be named the Demon for its huge growl. Its got great harmonics and bite, but the growl stands out most to me. Thats why I love it.
 
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the demon is a cool pickup but a let down at the same time
 
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TheMist said:
fire who evers nameing all these pickups.
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Both these pickups were named in the 80's. Whoever that person may be long gone. Maybe Seymour named them, not sure. Bump for Evan.
 
Re: Which pickup's name is more unrepresentative? Jazz or Demon?

I voted Demon, it's the best shred pick up I've ever tried and could sound pretty nasty with a high gain amp! When I first heard about this pick up, I indeed thought something Black Metal-ish with lots of output. I also started digging it after hearing clips and comments on this forum. I actually think this pick up should be named after a terrific lead sound or something, or maybe they should swap names with the Full Shred :P, as I think this pup's also full of shred!

My first post was about thát modern, shreddy, ultraclean, loaded with harmonics neck pick up to compliment the JB. I got about two dozen reactions of people telling me to try the Jazz as it would probably be the pick up I needed. I never tried it though, partially because of the name, I just couldn't believe it could sound heavy enough and be that pick up. I am getting more interested in it though, but I still can't find a lot of soundclips hanging around here. I'm still kinda intimidated by the name I guess, but I don't think I'll be as suprised as the Demon. That pick up made me think the oposite of the name :)
 
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Not that the Jazz can't do authentic Jazz tone, just that a 59 or Alnico Pro II suits it better. The Jazz can cover Fusion stuff, maybe that modern smooth jazz tone, but real Jazz, thats a stretch.

I haven't heard the Benedetto pickups that Seymour makes but they're used in pricey archtops made specifically for jazz.

If you bought a SD Jazz to get a Wes Montgomery/Charlie Christian/Django Rheinhardt/Pat Martino sound, you might be disappointed like I was when I bought mine several years ago.
 
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Neeradj said:
My first post was about thát modern, shreddy, ultraclean, loaded with harmonics neck pick up to compliment the JB. I got about two dozen reactions of people telling me to try the Jazz as it would probably be the pick up I needed. I never tried it though, partially because of the name, I just couldn't believe it could sound heavy enough and be that pick up. I am getting more interested in it though, but I still can't find a lot of soundclips hanging around here. I'm still kinda intimidated by the name I guess, but I don't think I'll be as suprised as the Demon. That pick up made me think the oposite of the name :)
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I just put a Jazz in the neck position of my Jackson Dinky last night. It's perfect. Articulate... all of a sudden I could do a sweep arpeggio (high-gain), which I could never get with anything else (because I'm not very good at it). I put a JB in the bridge and it's a perfect compliment (big surprise, eh?). The JB did NOT work in my soloist, but sounds great in the Dinky... so go figure.

Jolly and Seymour are right. The Jazz is the schiznit in the neck! Now what do I do with my Alnico Pro II?

As for the Screamin' Demon. The name sounds real scary, but I put it in the bridge of my LP and it's not brutal enough for what I'm looking for, and I didn't like it in my Dinky, either. Should be renamed "Singing Angel," or something like that. It sounds pretty, but it doesn't scare me.

**** Caveat ****** I'm fairly new to this pickup swapping biz, and these are just my humble opinions.

Anybody want my Screamin' Demon?
 
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Yeh, DEAMON .
 
Re: Which pickup's name is more unrepresentative? Jazz or Demon?

JammerMatt said:
I just put a Jazz in the neck position of my Jackson Dinky last night. It's perfect. Articulate... all of a sudden I could do a sweep arpeggio (high-gain), which I could never get with anything else (because I'm not very good at it). I put a JB in the bridge and it's a perfect compliment (big surprise, eh?). The JB did NOT work in my soloist, but sounds great in the Dinky... so go figure.

Jolly and Seymour are right. The Jazz is the schiznit in the neck! Now what do I do with my Alnico Pro II?

As for the Screamin' Demon. The name sounds real scary, but I put it in the bridge of my LP and it's not brutal enough for what I'm looking for, and I didn't like it in my Dinky, either. Should be renamed "Singing Angel," or something like that. It sounds pretty, but it doesn't scare me.

**** Caveat ****** I'm fairly new to this pickup swapping biz, and these are just my humble opinions.

Anybody want my Screamin' Demon?
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So did you try the Demon in the neck position with the JB at the bridge? I'm very curious about this combo and trying to get a lot of opinions on it. The name Jazz has put me off to and so I got a '59 instead. Great pickup but not the best match for a JB IMO. Does the Jazz do brutal chunky rythem stuff? (I like the JB for leads) What about the crunch? I was told that the Jazz is very similar to the '59 but a bit less on the bass and mud.
Ps. I might be interested in your Demon. :)
 
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No, I didn't try the Demon in the neck. But, you know, it might just do well there come to think of it. But, I'm probably going to trade it off.

The Jazz seems very articulate, and I think it has a great mellow lead voice.

Brutal and chunky? Well, I play rhythm on the bridge pickup, so I haven't really given the Jazz a listen for brutal distorted rhythm work. I'll try it out and get back.
 
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Ok thanks. You really should try out the Demon in the neck before you sell it. Might be a great one for in there! Can't hurt to try it out.
 
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garublador said:
I always thought the Custom was the most unrepresentative name. How can something that's a production model be "custom?" ;)
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It is a customized PAF I think. Maybe they thought it that way. :rolleyes:
 
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