which SD humbucker does ths best?

gimmieinfo

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"this"= cleans up best with the guitar volume in a way that loses instead of retains the mids you hear on 10. Many HBs are too middy when u turn the volume down to clean u and mids do not translate well to clean tone. I want something that becomes open and airy and loses mids as you roll it down and must be vintage output, not hot at all. No need to mention treble bleeds, i and quite well versed in them and use them in all guitars. This is for a LP standard and you know those are already middy guitars so man pickups don't clean up well in them and i don't have the time of money to buy 10 sets ad go broke and figure it out in 2036. So if you understand exactly what i am looking for and now of a pickup that wiil do it w/o breaking the bank, what is it?
 
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You might take a look at the Full Shred and Sentient which sound more hollow as they get turned down.
 
the middy sound you hear is the effect of the resistor partitor interacting with the pickup impedance and the tone circuit, you can not rid of that unless you put some kind of treble bleeding circuit in the equation (the Kinman is the one I prefer). Another easy option is the 50s wiring, just connect the tone pot to the central lug of the volume pot instead of the outer one, the 50s wiring is a slick trick that works quite well but the tone control won't work as before.

Back to the pickup choice, since the treble side is the one cut off when you roll the volume I think you have to look for a pickup that pushes on treble, I'd say an A3 would be in the ballbark put the high mid would be a bit too high for your taste, so you might look eventually for a low winding A5 PU, which has a bit of a mid scooped eq by itself (a '59N for example?)
 
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id look at what treble bleed circuit you are using, there are some that preserve highs but also seemingly cut lower frequencies as you roll the volume down. they dont actually cut the mids or lows necessarily, but it preserves the high end in a way that it seems like the lower frequencies are being cut. what do you use now?

that said... what position on your les paul? a jazz neck model in the bridge would suit everything you are asking for
 
Guys, i know all that stuff. I'm am as aware as possible about how treble bleeds work and all the finer details and have them installed. And also aware of tone controls, don't like them, and and they are disconnected. I'm asking a question about what pickup might help. I've been modding guitars since the 70s and i don't mean to be indignant but i don't need electronics lessons, i need to know if there are any SDs or even other brands that have a model that addresses my issue. It's a 2023 Epi LP standard by the way, sorry if i didn't mention that.
 
None I can think of. Most pickups retain their character at every volume level. It's the circuit outside the pickups that cause the changes you describe IME. Good luck.
 
I've been modding guitars since the 70s and i don't mean to be indignant but i don't need electronics lessons, i need to know if there are any SDs or even other brands that have a model that addresses my issue. It's a 2023 Epi LP standard by the way, sorry if i didn't mention that.

So you probably know that what you want is easier with...

1) 50's wiring,

2) pickups with a narrow resonant peak / high Q factor,

3) a low inner parasitic capacitance of coils, like hand wound or at least scatter wound ones, and/or theoretically without wax potting (in order to avoid any added dielectric material between layers of wire)...


Strangely, point 3) has been abundantly illustrated by the experience and reviews of players around the World but remains ostensibly ignored if not denied on web sites devoted to guitar electronics, although it's easy to check: even a simple 5Spice simulation of coils exhibiting low vs high stray capacitance makes it obvious when the volume control is virtually lowered...


Duncan's are not hand wound nor scatter wound but among them and without neglecting the models already named above, I'd consider an unpotted (and therefore Custom Shop) set of Pearly Gates, for instance. IME, this model has the kind of pointy resonance evoked in point 2).



SIDE NOTE and rambling from an old fart - Yesterday, I way toying with the volume controls of a Gibby 69 Flying V (50's wiring) : its bridge pickup (a patent sticker T-Top from the late 60's) has been altered by an unrequested "flash potting" in a previous life but is still... "brilliant"when it comes to keep high frequencies with volume lowered. Same thing with the hand wound Skatterbrane HB mounted in neck position, even if for different reasons... Gives two examples of other models or brands able to fulfil the needs expressed in this topic. :-)
 
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