Which wah for you?

[thespricket]

Re: Which wah for you?

Some of the best I've ever played through are the snarling dog wah's. They have a ton of options for whatever your looking for and are affordable. I just haven't actually bought one because it doesn't fit my style much, but I'd to have one around for messing around.

+1, I believe mine is one you've played through. I get frustrated because people overlook them a lot. They're true bypass, and they sound just as good if not better than any dunlop or vox. They also have a really wide sweep so, to me, they're more comfortable than the rest. What i really dont like about morley wahs are that you have to step on the side switch to activate them, while with snarling dog's and most other wahs you just press down on them and start rocking a way.

they also look really BA:bling:

 

[millsart]

Re: Which wah for you?

Snarling Dog's definatly aren't bad for the money. I had the Super Bawl Whine-O-Wah and it was pretty nice as it had three setting and a boost mode. I didn't really care for the WhiteRoom setting as its too bassy, but the Voodoo setting was a decent vintage type tone. Shaft probably woudnt be most peoples taste either unless you like that really cutting 70's funk stuff (as I do on occasion)

The sweep is pretty wide, wider than a typical dunlop style which takes a little getting used to but the build quality is solid. Heavy pedal around 5lbs+ so it won't flip over on you.


Compared to the Teese wah's though the top end is no where near as sweet or the overall tone as rich/musical. I a/b'd mine when I got my RMC-3 and it was basically no contest, Snarling Dog couldn't compare at all.

But its not exactly apples to oranges either as the Teese wah cost over twice what the Snarling Dogs did.

If you want a really good wah you can't go wrong with Teese. If you simply want an affordable wah with some cool tonal options thats far better than a typical Dunlop for not much more $, check out the Snarling Dogs line

 

[thespricket]

Re: Which wah for you?

I've never used a teese wah before, but im sure they sound great. The white room wah setting you reffered to is the voicing that the standard wah or "Wonder Wah" has, which is the one i use. I can see why you'd say it's really bassy, i agree. But for a standard wah i guess i like it. I would love to try out their entire line of wahs, but hardly any stores carry them.

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: Which wah for you?

I've been using the Pro Analog Supaquack for quite a while - I'm not sure I'd pay more than $350 for one, but I really do like it.

 

[gilles27]

Re: Which wah for you?

i use a clyde, i do rather like the tone, could probably use a little more range tho. really great for rhythm stuff

 

[millsart]

Re: Which wah for you?

I've never used a teese wah before, but im sure they sound great. The white room wah setting you reffered to is the voicing that the standard wah or "Wonder Wah" has, which is the one i use. I can see why you'd say it's really bassy, i agree. But for a standard wah i guess i like it. I would love to try out their entire line of wahs, but hardly any stores carry them.

They've gotten rather hard to find and if Im not mistaken, I think most of the models are no longer in production. Something to do with the founder Charlie Singer's passing perhaps. They used to have like 5 or 6 ones out there and now all I ever see is the Super Bawl Whine O Wah and a Bootsy Collins bass wah which I think are being produced by a different company under the same name.

 

[Skullkrusher]

Re: Which wah for you?

I just ordered the Morley "Tremonti" wah. I think it will suit me fine, but if not....I'll try another.

 

[some_dude]

Re: Which wah for you?

I use a Dunlop Zakk Wylde, modded for true bypass.

The pedal is basically a slightly tweeked Dunlop Hendrix model with a narrower sweep. I like it because it has a somewhat narrow sweep, so it doesn't get too naselly or too bassy. It also maintains clarity in the heel down, something my old GCB-95 was garbage at. Also, it has a clutch on it, so I can park it without worrying about it slowly changing tone.... another thing my GCB-95 was garbage at.

That said.... I only use wah for two things; covering Rage's Bulls on Parade and covering Sabbath's Electric Funeral, so I'm hardly an expert on wah tones.

The Snarling Dogs are alright. My buddy sells them and he insists they're nothing but a Dunlop clone in a snazzy housing. I'm not an expert enough in wahs to tell either way.

The best wah I've ever used is a Chicago Iron Parachute Wah.... I've always regretted selling it, but i needed the $$$ at the time. The thing is ....unique.... so it's not for everyone, and defiantly not for someone looking for vintage Hendrix or funk tones.

 

[NevermindUs]

Re: Which wah for you?

weeping demon all the way! i like the wah sound, especially bass wahs on guitar ala daniel lioneye, but every wah ive used ripped my tone. to me, it sounded like it was always on. but i decided to buy this because im a control freak, and according to john frusciante this is the most variable wah on the market. originally i bought it because i loved the concept of having a switch on it that i could step on for that cocked wah position, insted of having to rock the switch all the way to the toe to turn it on and off. but then i started playing with the instant off setting, and i love it to death! i can hit a wah on one note and then instantly have my og guitar tone back. and no steping on switches to turn it on and off. its just like i want wah, just play the wah, and when youre done its done:bling:

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: Which wah for you?

just so you know...there is a setting for the off delay from instant to 3 seconds which is mentioned in the manual. just turn the trim pot in the pedal and you can set it to shut of as soon as you take your foot off (how i have mine set ) or have a delay.

the reason it has the delay is if you're rocking the pedal from full up to full down for a song if you have it set for instant off it shuts on and off every time you rock full up on the pedal. so they set it with a short delay from the factory so that it's on at all times during full sweeps of the pedal and isn't turning on and off the whole time. so there's a logic to that off delay. which again you have control over.

don't be quick to bash what you don't know about please, it spreads false information and confuses people.

as for the tone, that's subjective to every player of course and you can adjust that...just like any wah...but it requires mods.


-Mike

Yes, you do have control over the delay.... to a very certain extent. Having the delay controlled via an internal trim-pot was a really stupid idea. Why? One setting isn't sufficient for everything.

If I'm doing something that has quick wah fills, I want it to shut off really quickly. If I'm doing something like stoner rock, where the wah is spending a lot of time in the back position, I want it not to shut off quickly.

Adam is right, switchless wahs would be better if they could tell when your foot was actually on/off it. If the treadle were mounted on a momentary switch, it could turn on by setting your foot on it, and off by removing it, regardless of the wah position. I bet that would win over a lot of the people who dislike the switchless wahs.

 

[Ascension]

Re: Which wah for you?

I use the George Dennis optical units exclusively. These are relable, are built like a tank and sound great. I have a pair of the standard GD-35's on each of my pedal boards and a GD 40 with the high low switch that is for sale if anybody wants it for $90 shipped . Music 1-2-3 has these for $145 + shipping new and list is $200.

 

[Jonny R]

Re: Which wah for you?

I use, although not all that regularly, a Dunlop Original Crybaby and a Morley Bad Horsie II, both unmodded. Tonally I tend to prefer the sweep and tone of the Crybaby over the Bad Horsie II, even though the BH has an adjustable level and frequency, I just cannot seem to get it dialed in quite to where I would like it. What I love about it is the operation. Step on and go... no worries about whether it's really on or off, no worries about the switch being somewhere in between like the crybaby has done a couple times. Where the BH2 comes in handy tonally is with clean tones... I can adjust the level so that clean wah tones in the open position do not shatter glass, something the crybaby is quite good at.

Ultimately I'd like to set up a board with two loops, and a wah in each loop. Then I might not only use them both, but use a wah more often.

Yeah, I have a Bad Horsie, and would advocate that kind of approach. The BH is great for lead playing, but can't do funk stuff. You need to combine it with another if that's something you want.

I have a George Dennis pedal too, but it won't work with three or more other pedals in the loop. With battery or power supply. Either way, it introduces a heavy hiss to the system...wrote to support, got a reply "It must be one of your other pedals".

Nope...happens with any other pedals, whatever combination. Get to three, bring in the hiss.

 

[wahwah]

Re: Which wah for you?

I've had a few different Crybaby's over the years, including a mid 90's Hendrix model, as well as a Vox 847 re-issue. I tried out the Fulltone Clyde, but the search ended here...

A Teese RMC1, custom made by Geoffrey in 2004 to sit at unity gain, as opposed to the standard 6dB boost, and a RMC4 Picture Wah. The Picture Wah has the Dave Fox retrofit (as all new Teese wahs do) to make it work with any fuzz or distortion. The RMC1 is specifically for single coils, and has a beautiful warmth to it. The Picture Wah is the classic Italian wah sound. Just beautiful, both of them.



Cheers..............................wahwah

 

[sosomething]

Re: Which wah for you?

just so you know...there is a setting for the off delay from instant to 3 seconds which is mentioned in the manual. just turn the trim pot in the pedal and you can set it to shut of as soon as you take your foot off (how i have mine set ) or have a delay.

the reason it has the delay is if you're rocking the pedal from full up to full down for a song if you have it set for instant off it shuts on and off every time you rock full up on the pedal. so they set it with a short delay from the factory so that it's on at all times during full sweeps of the pedal and isn't turning on and off the whole time. so there's a logic to that off delay. which again you have control over.

don't be quick to bash what you don't know about please, it spreads false information and confuses people.

as for the tone, that's subjective to every player of course and you can adjust that...just like any wah...but it requires mods.


-Mike

I'm aware of the trim pot. It's useless to me. I either had to deal with the delay or deal with the fact that it kicks off in full back position. If it works for you, well, good for you. It didn't for me.

As for tone - yeah, it's subjective. I found little tone to be had in that pedal. Maybe I could have modded it to sound better, but given my issues with the auto shut-off feature it would have been an exercise in wasted effort.

Don't be quick to assume that just because someone thinks a piece of gear you like sucks it must mean that they're ignorant of it's functions.

 

[fingerace]

Re: Which wah for you?

Been thinking of buying one of those pedals. Reccomend it?

I had fun building the BYOC pedal, and twinking it to my tastes. It was the cheapest wah which had a tweakable sound. I guess a McCoy pedal should sound better than the BYOC pedal.

I have heard a few of those cheap(er) Dunlop wah and it does sound better than those.

 

[daemon barbeque]

Re: Which wah for you?

Weeeeeeeeeeeping Demon User here!
That baby does anything i want...
It's extreme tweakable ..Modern sounding ,modern build ,strong and cool Pedal...
Switchless or switchable design ,5 trimpots ,one mode switch to get your sound ,nice adjustable ...
One of the few pedals wich gives you the ability to play "instant" wahed and unwahed rythm...it's allways "on" ,but never get's on your way!!Great thing!
perfect for sqeeling om Pinch harmonics ,and let the other parts of your rythm/solo be uneffected...

 

[guitarded]

Re: Which wah for you?

The Tremonti wah is a little different. The boost seems to give the mids a lift and when you are solo'ing this thing can really cut through the mix. I had a bit of problem with the bad horsie in that respect. I would definitely recommend the Tremonti model to anyone doing overdriven leads with wah.

A few other advantages of Morley..... Little or no tone suck when disengaged, very quiet due to optical pot. The only disadvantage is that the pedal is spring loaded so you would have to hold it down half way if you use it to do phasey sounding solo work. And the Tremonti is not the model you would want to use for clean wah because the boost is just too noticeable... That is why I held on to the bad horsie.

I had a Morley Wah for a while.

The tone? Hated it. I even tried the stupid thing in the loop to see if it sounded better (which of course it did not) but I found it extremely nasally with no body and a the decent sweep it has with clean tones narrowed out like crazy with any amount of OD.

Sold it and have not regretted it.

M2C, YMMV, etc.

 

[Bludave]

Re: Which wah for you?

I own 3 Wahs. A vintage Crybaby (Thomas Organ Company) , a Vox Clyde McCoy, and a modded Vox 847. The 847 is on my main Gigging board; this was modded by Stratdeluxer97 a member here. Its a super versatile Wah although I don't really use all the features it has. I really prefer the vintage wah sounds that Hendrix and Clapton created so my favorite is my old Crybaby. This wah has some issues so I really don't take it out. The Vox Clyde is a very good wah right out of the box. If you are looking for super good quality and versatility you might want to take a close look at the Fulletone Clydes and the Real McCoy wahs. Both are excellent and will probably give any player everything they want. I will eventually buy a real McCoy.

 

[sosomething]

Re: Which wah for you?

The Tremonti wah is a little different. The boost seems to give the mids a lift and when you are solo'ing this thing can really cut through the mix. I had a bit of problem with the bad horsie in that respect. I would definitely recommend the Tremonti model to anyone doing overdriven leads with wah.

A few other advantages of Morley..... Little or no tone suck when disengaged, very quiet due to optical pot. The only disadvantage is that the pedal is spring loaded so you would have to hold it down half way if you use it to do phasey sounding solo work. And the Tremonti is not the model you would want to use for clean wah because the boost is just too noticeable... That is why I held on to the bad horsie.

Mine was the Bad Horsie II, not the Tremonti. I will give you that it's pretty transparent when disengaged. I couldn't fault it for tone suck, that's for sure.

Sounds like the Tremonti pedal would have been a better fit for me, but I think my Wah needs from here on are going to be met the old-fashioned way. I need a wah with some body to it.

Years ago - my very first ever pedal was a Dunlop Jimi Hendrix Wah and I wish I still had it. That thing sounded awesome.

 

[guitarded]

Re: Which wah for you?

I would imagine there are better sounding pedals, but for me convenience was the selling point. Tone suck was the biggest problem I had with Crybabies and the second biggest was the amount of force needed on the pedal to engage and disengage it.... I think wah's are a personal thing like guitars. I would not go as far as to say anything is better than anything... I could just post what I like and don't like about what I use.

Mine was the Bad Horsie II, not the Tremonti. I will give you that it's pretty transparent when disengaged. I couldn't fault it for tone suck, that's for sure.

Sounds like the Tremonti pedal would have been a better fit for me, but I think my Wah needs from here on are going to be met the old-fashioned way. I need a wah with some body to it.

Years ago - my very first ever pedal was a Dunlop Jimi Hendrix Wah and I wish I still had it. That thing sounded awesome.