Who has used a ....

[JeffB]

Custom Custom in their Gibson or Gibson style (i.e. Hamer studio/monaco/standard, Tokai paulas, etc) guitars.

I've heard two in person....both paulas, but not able to fool around with them myself for more than a couple minutes...but looking for some feedback..especially how they compare to 59s for those that have used both (in the bridge position)

 

[MikeS]

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Can't compare to the '59 Jeff, but the CC in the bridge of my LP didn't last too long. The pronounced mids of the CC combined with the strong mid range of the LP were a bit over the top for me. It created a massive mids spike that really cut but was almost piercing in the bedroom (I think it'd be great in a band setting, but by myself I wasn't liking it). The bottom was pretty flubby, too. I tend to prefer a much tighter bottom end with my LP bridge pickups, and the CC had a tendancy to get a little muddy.

Output wise the CC was perfect, though. Cooler than the JB I had in there, but hotter than the Demon in it right now. If I could pull some mids out of the CC and tighten up the bottom, I'd have the right bridge pickup.

Sorry I can't directly compare it to the 59. Hopefully you find that at least somewhat helpful. :/

 

[JacksonMIA]

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I think Luke Duke had one in his Heritage for a while. I don't remember why he swapped it out.

 

[JeffB]

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Thanks Mike...thats what I was afraid of..the lack of bass/tightness...I think in the Hamer the mids would be OK cos compared to a Paula there aren't as much mids...but I don't want less low end than I have now...I just want to thicken the sound up....

grrr...finding the right pup that doesn't cost an arm and a leg is a PITA...

luckily I think I'll be able to keep the Hamer now...but I'd really like to get something better in the bridge...hmmm..maybe a BBQ

 

[MikeS]

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Thanks Mike...thats what I was afraid of..the lack of bass/tightness...I think in the Hamer the mids would be OK cos compared to a Paula there aren't as much mids...but I don't want less low end than I have now...I just want to thicken the sound up....

I wouldn't say there's that much less low end (though a lot of it might be provided by the LP and not the pup), but what low end there is is flubby and overshadowed by the mid spike.

I wonder what a C5 could do for your Hamer (and my LP for that matter).

 

[ErikH]

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Jeff, you already know how the CC sounds in my LP. In the wrong guitar, it can go flubby. A lot of low end control is in the amp/speaker encosure as well. If your amp has tons of low end, then anything will sound good. Lots of factors involved. In my LP, through the Marshall and closed back cab, I couldn't ask for a better sounding tone. Of course, I like the low end a little bit looser than most. That on the edge sound.

 

[Kelsey]

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I've heard both the 59 and the CC in thick mahogany body guitars, and both of 'em can sound good. I thought the mid push of the CC was a bit too strong through a 1x12 combo amp, but it seemed nicely balanced otherwise. I preferred the 59 for my LP Classic due to the more open sound and stronger low end, which that particular LP needed -- the Antiquity set I had in it was way too weak overall, but especially in the lows. The 59s work really well in that guitar.

 

[flank]

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oddly enough, i first tried a 59, and then a CC......the 59 was way brighter, a little clearer, and a more punchy type bottom end, but it didnt have enough mids for me.......the CC sounded really good i think, i thought the bottom end was fine, and i enjoyed how the mids made the sound really thick, the clean tone was pretty cool too, for a sort of zingy 50s rockabilly type tone........ but i ended up trying the Phat Cat cause i got interested in P90s, and havent looked back

 

[Zhangliqun]

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The CC might be a little warm for the average LP but if yours is a little brighter than average, it would probably be perfect.

 

[Zerberus]

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HAd one in my V..liked it, then I stuck a second magnet underneath and now I love it :headbang:

 

[Rich_T]

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got one in my Les Paul. Its one chunky pickup. I love the thing, fat, warm and articulate. Rolled off top end with a nice fat mid. Just how i like it for use with my Marshall.

 

[JeffB]

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Thanks folks...may be a good match for the Hamer...I didn't care too much for it in the Paulas...too much mids...but the Hamer lacks there comparitively.

I still have the SuperD...but I'm trying to stay away from Ceramic if at all possible...

 

[pinto79]

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Swap the ceramic mag in the SuperD for a A2. Could be an interesting experiment...

 

[remingtonbo2001]

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I had a CC in an Ibanez GIO. It could be considered to be somewhat Les Esque, depending on the year which the model was produced. It produce an incredibly creamy distortion. This was milk. The sustain was beautiful. It was still able to carry an edge, but IMHO, the smoothest combo (Guitar/Pickup) that I've tried. It was a tad too modern for my taste, then again, I've been known to be incredibly meticulous, not just with music. I've been also known to have an odd set of hears. I hear things incredibly well, more than likely contributed by a family that would insist leaving the TV at near full volume at all times. Honestly, I've had Hammer, wonderful guitar by the way, but I think an Ibanez GIO might be your answer. I believe my model was made in 2002/03. I rewired, potted the entire guitar. It's a very quiet guitar, as it is one of a few guitars which comes shielded. I decided to add another layer for good measures. Next in line would Charvel. Oh, man I'm an ABSOLUTE IDIOT. Sorry dude, I took some Benadryl, but here's a solution to an increase in sustain. REMOVE THE NECK PICKUP. If you use the neck pickup often then you might want to try another route. I'm sure you know the basic theory behind this technique, magnetic pull. Well, after research, and some helpful musicians, I did a study to find out the effect of tone, sustain with an open neck cavity. As well, various materials such as glass, wood, metals and the effect of tone/sustain. It is still in theory, but each person was able to hear the difference of an open cavity, compared to a closed cavity. The use of different materials was a little more difficult to differentiate. Try sheet metal, thin layer of glass to line the cavity with. A reflective material of course. Again, the percieved change in tone could be nothing more than myth, but I would find that to be somewhat difficult to believe. Try it out, it may help out some. If you want the results, IM.

 

[Benjy_26]

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Try the Super D already.

Trust me, it's not as fizzy on the top as you might think. It's also way warmer and thicker in the mids than the 59.