Who is rocking the new Fender line of pedals?

[Bogner]

They look ok but I probably would never ever buy a Fender pedal. There are so many choices out there that are so good I don't know why they even bother trying to push pedals. Regardless, the demo's I have heard of some of them weren't bad and you can probably find them on clearance for a song and a dance so maybe they would be a wise purchase from that point of view. I personally don't know of anybody using them but I only know 4 people.

 

[Aceman]

They look ok but I probably would never ever buy a Fender pedal. There are so many choices out there that are so good I don't know why they even bother trying to push pedals. Regardless, the demo's I have heard of some of them weren't bad and you can probably find them on clearance for a song and a dance so maybe they would be a wise purchase from that point of view. I personally don't know of anybody using them but I only know 4 people.

I think they picked bad price points. They are pretty steep. I'd have went lower just to attract the market. Not too much, but again - Sweetwater

Strymon Flint: $299

Fender Tre-verb: $269

Is $30 bucks enough to overcome the Strymon fanboys/history? I don't think so.

 

[Mincer]

All pedals above $100 have been steadily climbing in price the last year or so. If it is less than $100, it is considered a throwaway toy, and prices start to jump quickly above that, even for non-digital pedals like fuzzes.

 

[Dudeman7]

I was just watching the video for that Acoustic Preverb. Pretty cool. There might be one in my future. But near the end of the video, he also adds in the Smolder Acoustic Overdrive. I thought that sounded terrible. I can't imagine using OD with an acoustic.

An acoustic pedal board is probably something I will put together over the next few months. Interestingly, I was looking for acoustic oriented pedals last night and came upon the Smolder Acoustic OD. There were only a couple videos that I watched but I thought it sounded pretty good.

In the past, I have used guitar or bass dirt boxes with my acoustic with mixed results. I have a couple songs that are good candidates for OD with the acoustic, well parts of songs anyway.

If I end up going with one I will post my thoughts and clips here.

 

[Artie]

If I end up going with one I will post my thoughts and clips here.

That would be cool. I'll go back and watch that video again.

 

[Aceman]

An acoustic pedal board is probably something I will put together over the next few months. Interestingly, I was looking for acoustic oriented pedals last night and came upon the Smolder Acoustic OD. There were only a couple videos that I watched but I thought it sounded pretty good.

In the past, I have used guitar or bass dirt boxes with my acoustic with mixed results. I have a couple songs that are good candidates for OD with the acoustic, well parts of songs anyway.

If I end up going with one I will post my thoughts and clips here.

See "Where my Pedals Sleep" for a pic of mine.

 

[Bogner]

I think they picked bad price points. They are pretty steep. I'd have went lower just to attract the market. Not too much, but again - Sweetwater

Strymon Flint: $299

Fender Tre-verb: $269

Is $30 bucks enough to overcome the Strymon fanboys/history? I don't think so.

I agree... When you get into that price point it is a different ball game. A good example is Walrus Audio Pedals. Great pedals, I have several and love them but wouldn't touch them if they had a higher price point. Not because they aren't good, but because other pedal makers are in the game at the higher price point space and the established name, expectation, quality, features, etc are already established.

 

[PFDarkside]

I think they picked bad price points. They are pretty steep. I'd have went lower just to attract the market. Not too much, but again - Sweetwater

Strymon Flint: $299

Fender Tre-verb: $269

Is $30 bucks enough to overcome the Strymon fanboys/history? I don't think so.

I agree 100%. Flint is an absolute staple for those that don’t mind spending on effects. $269 is saying “we are as good and we are going to price just below because we are Fender not a small company”. It’s like calling an all out blitz on Tom Brady, and Brady just throws a little screen over the Defense. $219 would have still put them in a premium price point (well over Boss, TC, etc.) but far enough under Strymon to justify it on cost.

The Fender Santa Ana overdrive is $249. Crazy, the King of Tone is $269 from Analogman. The Fulldrive 3 is $151. I want to try it but that better be a damn good overdrive for $250!

 

[Aceman]

I may have had a sales/market genius moment there...Thank you all!

Big company is as big company does.
There is a good review on the Tre-Verb by that little freaky German Dieter guy. They point out a couple of potential major issues with the knob range. If the Tre is for Surf...well, cool. But it could be WAY more marketable with a better pot range on the reverb level and dwell.

Of course, I could maybe overlook this at $180 on sale. But hard to pul the trigger at $250 plus...


And $250 Overdrive Companies don't START at $250. They start at ~$1250, realize they are epic, and raise the price.

 

[PFDarkside]

The good thing is you’ll definitely see sales on Fender stuff and coupons do tend to apply to them as well.

 

[Mincer]

Yes, usually coupons and sales will work for Fender products. There might be a few before -Christmas sales, or New Years. I bet you can find it for the price you want to pay.

 

[dystrust]

I may have had a sales/market genius moment there...Thank you all!

Big company is as big company does.
There is a good review on the Tre-Verb by that little freaky German Dieter guy. They point out a couple of potential major issues with the knob range. If the Tre is for Surf...well, cool. But it could be WAY more marketable with a better pot range on the reverb level and dwell.

Of course, I could maybe overlook this at $180 on sale. But hard to pul the trigger at $250 plus...


And $250 Overdrive Companies don't START at $250. They start at ~$1250, realize they are epic, and raise the price.

At that price point, their stuff better be perfect or damn close. I'm not a Strymon fan at all and at one time counted myself among the objectors such as yourself, but I knew about the Flint and had heard all of the reviews, so I had to play one just to see. That pedal was so amazing that I had to have one, and now I have two. One of them lives on my main board, and the other is always on-call for any of my amps that don't have their own reverb or trem.

 

[Mincer]

I have to wonder why Strymon has such polar opposite opinions about their stuff.

 

[Aceman]

I have to wonder why Strymon has such polar opposite opinions about their stuff.

Really expensive, played by blues lawyers, mostly in worship bands....

Not a thing wrong with it.

 

[GreatOz]

Really expensive, played by blues lawyers, mostly in worship bands....

Not a thing wrong with it.

Lol, I play for the church band and the biggest reasons I stayed away from Strymon is that they're too expensive, too big, and have so many features that I just wouldn't use where I play cough Big Sky cough.

I'm not going to spend $500 for a pedal that I'll use 2 things on.

 

[dystrust]

Lol, I play for the church band and the biggest reasons I stayed away from Strymon is that they're too expensive, too big, and have so many features that I just wouldn't use where I play cough Big Sky cough.

I'm not going to spend $500 for a pedal that I'll use 2 things on.

I paid $220 for each of my Strymon Flints. The reverb is really good, but I wouldn't say it's light years ahead of the BOSS FRV-1 it replaced. I have no reference for plate, but the '80s' setting is pretty similar to the hall algorithms on my MPX-1, if nowhere near as tweakable. IMO where the Flint really shines is its Tremolo side. It's every bit as good as my former Demeter Tremulator and a lot more versatile. The BOSS TR-2 can do some crazy things, but it sucks at amp-like Tremolo. I'd never played a Harmonic Tremolo before I demoed a Flint prior to my first purchase. There may be better or at least comparable options now, but the Strymon Flint became the reverb/tremolo standard for a reason.

 

[GreatOz]

I paid $220 for each of my Strymon Flints. The reverb is really good, but I wouldn't say it's light years ahead of the BOSS FRV-1 it replaced. I have no reference for plate, but the '80s' setting is pretty similar to the hall algorithms on my MPX-1, if nowhere near as tweakable. IMO where the Flint really shines is its Tremolo side. It's every bit as good as my former Demeter Tremulator and a lot more versatile. The BOSS TR-2 can do some crazy things, but it sucks at amp-like Tremolo. I'd never played a Harmonic Tremolo before I demoed a Flint prior to my first purchase. There may be better or at least comparable options now, but the Strymon Flint became the reverb/tremolo standard for a reason.

$220 sounds like a good deal to me for the Flint because it's a combo pedal, especially if you're going to use both abilities a lot. If I had room on my board, I would get one if it were $220.

Oh and the "2 things" comment was more of a joke, not literally 2 things haha. I wasn't referring to the Flint specifically. I meant I don't want to spend the money on features that I won't use, so for me, pedals like the Big Sky are pointless to get.

 

[dystrust]

Oh and the "2 things" comment was more of a joke, not literally 2 things haha. I wasn't referring to the Flint specifically. I meant I don't want to spend the money on features that I won't use, so for me, pedals like the Big Sky are pointless to get.

I get it. The big deal for me with pedals like that (the Mobius more specifically) is that I'd want to use more than one at a time. What if I want tremolo after my chorus, flanger on top of my phase, or a phase and chorus in parallel? I've done the effects rack thing before, so I just have to remind myself that I'm happy with where I am and that all of that stuff is a PITA to program and a bigger PITA to load in somewhere.

 

[Aceman]

It's every bit as good as my former Demeter Tremulator and a lot more versatile.

You take that back mister!

 

[Aceman]

I wouldn't say it's light years ahead of the BOSS FRV-1 it replaced. IThe BOSS TR-2 can do some crazy things, but it sucks at amp-like Tremolo.

There is a comparison vid of a Flint vs TR-2/FRV-1. They do pretty good.