Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
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Erlend_G
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Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
I suppose it's my fault, so now i'll erase all my posts here.
I suppose it's my fault, so now i'll erase all my posts here.
MikeS
Bengalsologist
Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
Back to the topic at hand....
The pickups themselves are not not at all... around 10k if I recall. It's the boosted signal that gives you the guts to scream metal tones with them. A weaker signal could be caused by a weak battery. Be sure the 9v is still providing power. I have a very hard time believing the 81 can't push an amp as hard as any passive pickup. My 81 loaded Ibanez is the only guitar that can make a JB shake at the knees... it's that brutal.
Back to the topic at hand....
The pickups themselves are not not at all... around 10k if I recall. It's the boosted signal that gives you the guts to scream metal tones with them. A weaker signal could be caused by a weak battery. Be sure the 9v is still providing power. I have a very hard time believing the 81 can't push an amp as hard as any passive pickup. My 81 loaded Ibanez is the only guitar that can make a JB shake at the knees... it's that brutal.
frankencat
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Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
EMG's are cool - you just have to know what they are. I agree with the thread starter that overall EMG's are not any hotter than any other pickups. There are passive pickups like the DD that are hotter but what does that have to do with anything? It's the TONE that matters right brothers and sisters? EMG's have a certain tone to them in my experience - 81's are hot and distorted, 85's are warm and nice with medium output, and 60's (alnico) have a cool almost P90/Filtertron'ish vibe to them and are medium-hot in output. These are what I have used over the years, mostly in LP's and they have thoer place. If you have many guitars with passives it's nice to have at least one with actives. I have also used the SD actives and they sound good too, just too hot for what I like. FWIW, I use passive SD's 99.99% of the time. Peace
EMG's are cool - you just have to know what they are. I agree with the thread starter that overall EMG's are not any hotter than any other pickups. There are passive pickups like the DD that are hotter but what does that have to do with anything? It's the TONE that matters right brothers and sisters? EMG's have a certain tone to them in my experience - 81's are hot and distorted, 85's are warm and nice with medium output, and 60's (alnico) have a cool almost P90/Filtertron'ish vibe to them and are medium-hot in output. These are what I have used over the years, mostly in LP's and they have thoer place. If you have many guitars with passives it's nice to have at least one with actives. I have also used the SD actives and they sound good too, just too hot for what I like. FWIW, I use passive SD's 99.99% of the time. Peace
frankencat
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Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
Just to clarify about output, when I say the "DD is hotter" what I am refering to is that relatively speaking, there are hot and not-so-hot output pickups in both passives and actives. DD's are hotter than 85's for instance but an 81 is probably going to be hotter than a C5. YMMV.
Not sure if that makes it clearer or confuses. Hopefully it clarify's the point. Peace
Just to clarify about output, when I say the "DD is hotter" what I am refering to is that relatively speaking, there are hot and not-so-hot output pickups in both passives and actives. DD's are hotter than 85's for instance but an 81 is probably going to be hotter than a C5. YMMV.
Not sure if that makes it clearer or confuses. Hopefully it clarify's the point. Peace
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
I figured you were speaking in absolutives without actually meaning to, and I appreciate the formal apology.
Although I can't blame you; most people in the age range at hand are complete dumbasses. :laugh2: :smack:
Low_fidelity2100 said:
I figured you were speaking in absolutives without actually meaning to, and I appreciate the formal apology.
Although I can't blame you; most people in the age range at hand are complete dumbasses. :laugh2: :smack:
Xeromus
Tone Ninja
Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
Distortion has much better tone too. When I was using a Zakk Wylde Set in one of my Schecters I quickly got bored with the one trick pony sound. And they are not versatile at all. Try playing something lower gain on them, yuck. They were good for a super clean jazz sound in the neck with the 85 though.
Distortion has much better tone too. When I was using a Zakk Wylde Set in one of my Schecters I quickly got bored with the one trick pony sound. And they are not versatile at all. Try playing something lower gain on them, yuck. They were good for a super clean jazz sound in the neck with the 85 though.
HarrisonDavid
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Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
I have noticed your the exception........
And I have been known to post some stupid idiotic nonsence.
DeadSkinSlayer3 said:
I have noticed your the exception........
And I have been known to post some stupid idiotic nonsence.
HarrisonDavid
New member
Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
To my ears the 85 sounds hotter than the 81 and sounds better...IMHO. Having tryed both in the bridge.
As far as hotter....I think the 498T to my ears was hotter than both at low volumes. Under high volumes though it was mud. Another reason why the EMG is wound lighter around a DC resistance of 10. So what they have a preamp.......What are all the effects people stomp on these days to get there? That is sterile to me when your stomping on 5 different pedals.
frankencat said:EMG's are cool - you just have to know what they are. I agree with the thread starter that overall EMG's are not any hotter than any other pickups. There are passive pickups like the DD that are hotter but what does that have to do with anything? It's the TONE that matters right brothers and sisters? EMG's have a certain tone to them in my experience - 81's are hot and distorted, 85's are warm and nice with medium output, and 60's (alnico) have a cool almost P90/Filtertron'ish vibe to them and are medium-hot in output. These are what I have used over the years, mostly in LP's and they have thoer place. If you have many guitars with passives it's nice to have at least one with actives. I have also used the SD actives and they sound good too, just too hot for what I like. FWIW, I use passive SD's 99.99% of the time. Peace
To my ears the 85 sounds hotter than the 81 and sounds better...IMHO. Having tryed both in the bridge.
As far as hotter....I think the 498T to my ears was hotter than both at low volumes. Under high volumes though it was mud. Another reason why the EMG is wound lighter around a DC resistance of 10. So what they have a preamp.......What are all the effects people stomp on these days to get there? That is sterile to me when your stomping on 5 different pedals.
frankencat
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Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
I have always been happy with the EMG 85. I don't know how "vintage(ish)" it sounds but it is full and warm and is great for Blues and Classic Rock sounds. I have used a 60 neck/85 bridge combo with great success. The 60 is an awsome neck pickup in a LP.
I have always been happy with the EMG 85. I don't know how "vintage(ish)" it sounds but it is full and warm and is great for Blues and Classic Rock sounds. I have used a 60 neck/85 bridge combo with great success. The 60 is an awsome neck pickup in a LP.
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
They make strat and tele pickups, as well as a single coil in a humbucker housing.
B Bent said:
They make strat and tele pickups, as well as a single coil in a humbucker housing.
Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
the emg 60 is the "vintage" sounding emg. its lower output and more balanced than either the 85 or 81. its rob turner's favorite emg. i used emgs for years (81, 85, ,60 s, sa, sv, pa2, spc)and they arent bad, but they dont have the tonal complexity that a good passive pup does. i used to be a metal kid and loved metallica (circa justice), they used emgs and so did i.
i still have a pickguard loaded with emgs but i cant remember the last time i even saw it, let alone played a note with it
the emg 60 is the "vintage" sounding emg. its lower output and more balanced than either the 85 or 81. its rob turner's favorite emg. i used emgs for years (81, 85, ,60 s, sa, sv, pa2, spc)and they arent bad, but they dont have the tonal complexity that a good passive pup does. i used to be a metal kid and loved metallica (circa justice), they used emgs and so did i.
i still have a pickguard loaded with emgs but i cant remember the last time i even saw it, let alone played a note with it
some_dude
Raging BB Gunologist
Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
The 85 is good for all out shred lead work, but is kinda limited to that roll. I found it to be too fat/bassy sounding (in the neck) to clean up well. It also had a nice tone when you rolled the 85's volume down and blended it with a hot bridge 81.
I much prefer the 60....though I sometimes miss that 85 lead sound.
ranalli said:
The 85 is good for all out shred lead work, but is kinda limited to that roll. I found it to be too fat/bassy sounding (in the neck) to clean up well. It also had a nice tone when you rolled the 85's volume down and blended it with a hot bridge 81.
I much prefer the 60....though I sometimes miss that 85 lead sound.
MikeS
Bengalsologist
Re: Who said emg's were extremely hot???????? hell no
These guys hit it... the 60 is a more vintage voiced pickup that works wonderfully in teh neck position. It's much smoother than the 85n, IMO, and it cleans up much better. I tend to prefer it over the 85n for all leads. Whenever I'm "shredding" I'll typically be using the bridge pickup (81 in my case).
These guys hit it... the 60 is a more vintage voiced pickup that works wonderfully in teh neck position. It's much smoother than the 85n, IMO, and it cleans up much better. I tend to prefer it over the 85n for all leads. Whenever I'm "shredding" I'll typically be using the bridge pickup (81 in my case).
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