Who says a Tele cannot rock?

[El Dunco]

Re: Who says a Tele cannot rock?

The PIoneers do justice to Fragmenta, so I know what you are talking about, and I almost want to send that crushing music through my 200WPC Peavey PA and a set of EV S200's PA speakers I have. Hopefully I will.

Hahaha, if you have any of those kinds of neighbours who blast 'doof-doof' or glam-rap at late hours, you've got something to hit 'em back with.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

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Holy *** thats deep. I remember the Wilson Watts as Stereo Hi speakers at 50 grand a pop back in the day, and not really tonally neutral as your British Hi Fi, such as the Celstion SL-6's , for instance, but more musical and with a grand soundstage. had No idea the Wilson Watts werer being used for studio . I wouldad thunk the Old JBl's and Toas were still doing that.

Watt 3/Puppy 2 is a classic for a reason.

 

[NecroPolo]

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This thread contains an ample of great and useful offtopic comments without having any on-topic content. Later includes the related videos, too.

Just saying, sincerely, objectively, without sarcasm or anything.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

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Holy *** thats deep. I remember the Wilson Watts as Stereo Hi speakers at 50 grand a pop back in the day, and not really tonally neutral as your British Hi Fi, such as the Celstion SL-6's , for instance, but more musical and with a grand soundstage. had No idea the Wilson Watts werer being used for studio . I wouldad thunk the Old JBl's and Toas were still doing that.

Dave Wilson designed the WATT as a studio monitor.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

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Lyra Helikon s my personal fave. But a Sumiko Blue Point is a great cart at a great price. Red Book hasn't changed, so your Theta is probably fine. Which one do you have?

I'm thinking of getting a Dynavector 10x5 or DV-20x2.

My Theta is a DS Pro Prime. It was introduced in 1991 as an affordable 1-bit model that turned out to be an overachiever. I've had mine for eighteen years. Its main fault - apart from missing some modern features - is a certain lack of of authenticity in the midrange. It just doesn't render instrumental textures like the best DACs do.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

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But it's worlds beyond an iPhone!
Those sound like cr@p!!!

 

[Sirion]

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Lots of folks thinking Zepplin, for example was "metal", which just sin't so- they are hard rock / heavy rock- possibly Heavy metal at the most.

I have nothing to add or subtract from this – how could one possibly! – but have added boldface for emphasis.

 

[MetalManiac]

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I have nothing to add or subtract from this – how could one possibly! – but have added boldface for emphasis.

Can't tell if you are being sarcastic, but it serves to prove my point- "Metal" is way too differentiated at this point to just say "Metal" as a catch all phrase and seems to need further clarification. The Hard Rock-slash- Heavy Metal of the late 70's / 80' is way lass brutalZ than the modern metal or Nu /Black/Death metal these days, mainly due to the high gain amp technology, but of course drop tuned and thrash style playing.

I personally think one is locked into the style that is going on in your development. I am mainly hard rock, and heavy metal of the 60's into the 80's, and even stuff like Priest and Maiden is outside my comfort zone. Metallica is jus t about as heavy as it gets for me and even then on the outskirts of my style. I do enjoy to listen to some Nu Metal ( catch all phrase for modern metal to include Black/ Death/ Norwegian,etc.) stuff, but it sure ain't my playing style, although I have been known to fire up my Peavy 6505 and make like a NU Metal guitarist, but the stuff requires tons of energy, a commodity that is running in short supply at my age.

 

[Sirion]

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I have no problem with that. It seemed like you wanted to pull one of the "they used to be metal but now they're rock" arguments that has done so much to impede understanding of the genre as a historical phenomenon. It did seem to imply that traditional heavy metal – which Zeppelin as you wrote could be considered part of for at least some of their material – was not "metal" enough to be part of the parent genre any more, by which time too many people start revising history and puts the beginning of the genre around the time NWOBHM came out or something along those lines. But, I absolutely agree with your clarification, and apologise for my snarky reply, which was uncalled for in any case.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

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A natural progression of that policy would be to revise the definition of metal further, such that it no longer included Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, or even the classic thrash bands of the 80's. I suspect a lot of contemporary players and fans already have a working definition along these lines.

I think the reality is that the world of metal has gotten so big that the word "metal" no longer adequately describes what you're dealing with. It's like saying that a pickup or a pedal is great for "rock". What rock? Chuck Berry? AC/DC? Hendrix? 90's Van Halen?

 

[Sirion]

Re: Who says a Tele cannot rock?

I was a little cautious above; that view is already out there. I have been told at least a couple of times that Judas Priest isn't a metal band, by which time it has become obvious that the term means something entirely different to these people than it does to most of us, and certainly something else than it used to. That is fine, of course, but it doesn't mean that they get to rewrite history.

 

[Sirion]

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We are getting increasingly off-topic here, though…

 

[El Dunco]

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Don't even say Judas Priest isn't a metal band, that's just ridiculous.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

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Oh, I'm not. But I fear that some weenies might.

 

[El Dunco]

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Oh, I'm not. But I fear that some weenies might.

Let them be weenies then.

 

[kramersteen]

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[beaubrummels]

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http://mapofmetal.com/

 

[Lampy H]

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I would call Zeppelin/Sabbath/Purple all metal/heavy metal. Those would probably be the earliest contemporary bands to for that moniker.

 

[Myaccount876]

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I'd call Zeppelin/Sabbath/Purple/Priest all legendary ****ing great music. Meticulously labeling genres is for people who listen with their eyes rather than their ears.

 

[Lampy H]

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There's that, yeah.