Not suire if this is the right forum, sorry if not. Ive been trying tirelessly for a while to get the tone that Jimmy Page has in his solo for Whole Lotta Love. What effects/pedels/settings would be ideal for getting this tone? normally i figure it out on my own but im stumped on this one. Thanks
Whole Lotta Love
- Thread starter CryogeniX
- Start date
Reckless Abandon
New member
Re: Whole Lotta Love
LP with a '59 going through a cranked fender champ. Boost the mids leave bass and treble at 5.
LP with a '59 going through a cranked fender champ. Boost the mids leave bass and treble at 5.
jmv
New member
Re: Whole Lotta Love
an old champ ain't got a mid control.
although, that certainly is the basis of the forumula. Les Paul, vintage PAF-type humbucker, and a cranked tube amp.
an old champ ain't got a mid control.
although, that certainly is the basis of the forumula. Les Paul, vintage PAF-type humbucker, and a cranked tube amp.
thespricket
New member
Re: Whole Lotta Love
I know for a fact he used a wah pedal depressed downward, frank zappa style, with a les paul and either a supro or a vox cranked. It wasnt a marshall. I've got the guitarworld legends zep issue which has a great interview where jimmy talks about how he got some of his most famous tones.
it's pretty basic: old les paul, wah, cranked small tube amp
you're never going to sound exactly like the recording though, it's impossible. 50% of the sound on any of the zeppelin albums comes from the methods they used in the studio. Which is why you never really hear page live sound anything like he did on those classic recordings.
I know for a fact he used a wah pedal depressed downward, frank zappa style, with a les paul and either a supro or a vox cranked. It wasnt a marshall. I've got the guitarworld legends zep issue which has a great interview where jimmy talks about how he got some of his most famous tones.
it's pretty basic: old les paul, wah, cranked small tube amp
you're never going to sound exactly like the recording though, it's impossible. 50% of the sound on any of the zeppelin albums comes from the methods they used in the studio. Which is why you never really hear page live sound anything like he did on those classic recordings.
Pink Unicorn Horsey
Megä Pöny Rÿdr
Re: Whole Lotta Love
+1
In fact, you can hear him go from bass to treble on the first note as he's setting the position of the wah.
- Keith
+1
In fact, you can hear him go from bass to treble on the first note as he's setting the position of the wah.
- Keith
Pink Unicorn Horsey
Megä Pöny Rÿdr
Re: Whole Lotta Love
I thought he used a Tele on LZ I, but not LZ II. Not sure.
I thought he used a Tele on LZ I, but not LZ II. Not sure.
thespricket
New member
Re: Whole Lotta Love
he did use a tele on nearly every album somewhere, including II. But on whole lotta love he used a les paul, not his famous 58' or 59', but a black beauty that got stolen sometime after II came out. He used that on a lot of his studio work in the 60's, he also used it live. You can see it on the led zeppelin DVD on the last few tracks of the first set.
he did use a tele on nearly every album somewhere, including II. But on whole lotta love he used a les paul, not his famous 58' or 59', but a black beauty that got stolen sometime after II came out. He used that on a lot of his studio work in the 60's, he also used it live. You can see it on the led zeppelin DVD on the last few tracks of the first set.
Last edited:
Reckless Abandon
New member
M
MrHeavyMetal
Guest
Re: Whole Lotta Love
Led Zep II was recorded over a year or so. Jimmy used a variety of amps and guitars. he probably doesn't even remember what he used.
Led Zep II was recorded over a year or so. Jimmy used a variety of amps and guitars. he probably doesn't even remember what he used.
T
these_go211
Guest
Re: Whole Lotta Love
^i agree with this statement. there must be millions of threads on the net dealing with this topic. go check the gearpage for more info too. who knows who's right. ?? i guess the only thing we know for sure is that it's DARN GREAT TONE!
^i agree with this statement. there must be millions of threads on the net dealing with this topic. go check the gearpage for more info too. who knows who's right. ?? i guess the only thing we know for sure is that it's DARN GREAT TONE!
Pink Unicorn Horsey
Megä Pöny Rÿdr
Re: Whole Lotta Love
These interviews are so funny. Sometimes the artist will say different things just to screw with the interviewer and readers, or for the sake of maintaining trade secrets. Joe Perry has done this in the past and admitted to it. I believe EVH has admitted to the same.
Even when you're getting your information from the horse's mouth, you may be getting misinformation. It's frustrating, which is just how some artists would have it.
- Keith
These interviews are so funny. Sometimes the artist will say different things just to screw with the interviewer and readers, or for the sake of maintaining trade secrets. Joe Perry has done this in the past and admitted to it. I believe EVH has admitted to the same.
Even when you're getting your information from the horse's mouth, you may be getting misinformation. It's frustrating, which is just how some artists would have it.
- Keith
Iron Horse
New member
Re: Whole Lotta Love
OT: it must've felt great when Ritchie Blackmore said to the interwievers that the strap button in his guitars headstock is not there to add mass, but to get everybody think it is!
And yeah, Page has used much of different gear, but an LP with JP wiring and '59s or JP sig mics and wah thru overdriven amp with mids boosted is close, even for a track originally recorded with a Tele.
OT: it must've felt great when Ritchie Blackmore said to the interwievers that the strap button in his guitars headstock is not there to add mass, but to get everybody think it is!
And yeah, Page has used much of different gear, but an LP with JP wiring and '59s or JP sig mics and wah thru overdriven amp with mids boosted is close, even for a track originally recorded with a Tele.
J Moose
New member
Re: Whole Lotta Love
Over a year and some change actually, at several different studios. They used their touring gear for a lot of it... so probably a Paul & a Marshall... or an Orange.
The Supro was only on the first record & some later stuff like bits of 4...
Chances of any Telecaster on the second record are slim to none 'cause I don't think he was touring with one at the time.
Nobody's been able to cop that solo. Not even Page. Everyone always blows that insane middle lick...
Les Paul. Tube amp.
Lots of volume.
Record in the same room as the band. Embrace the bleed.
Woodshed. A lot.
There 'ya go.
Over a year and some change actually, at several different studios. They used their touring gear for a lot of it... so probably a Paul & a Marshall... or an Orange.
The Supro was only on the first record & some later stuff like bits of 4...
Chances of any Telecaster on the second record are slim to none 'cause I don't think he was touring with one at the time.
Nobody's been able to cop that solo. Not even Page. Everyone always blows that insane middle lick...
Les Paul. Tube amp.
Lots of volume.
Record in the same room as the band. Embrace the bleed.
Woodshed. A lot.
There 'ya go.
L
Lewguitar
Guest
Re: Whole Lotta Love
As mentioned, Jimmy Page used a smallish 50's or early 60's Supro amp (some say a Thunderbolt with a 15" speaker) and a Fender Tele. He miked it brilliantly! I've had the best luck getting that tone with a Tele with Fralin Blues Special pickups plugged into a MIJ Boss DS-1 into one of my '59 tweed Fender Deluxe amps.
As mentioned, Jimmy Page used a smallish 50's or early 60's Supro amp (some say a Thunderbolt with a 15" speaker) and a Fender Tele. He miked it brilliantly! I've had the best luck getting that tone with a Tele with Fralin Blues Special pickups plugged into a MIJ Boss DS-1 into one of my '59 tweed Fender Deluxe amps.
Pink Unicorn Horsey
Megä Pöny Rÿdr
Re: Whole Lotta Love
My understanding is that he did a lot of distance miking -- placing a mic as much as four feet or more away from the amp -- which wasn't very common in those days. That mic, mixed with a close mic, would help him achieve the ambiance he was after.
- Keith
My understanding is that he did a lot of distance miking -- placing a mic as much as four feet or more away from the amp -- which wasn't very common in those days. That mic, mixed with a close mic, would help him achieve the ambiance he was after.
- Keith
L
Lewguitar
Guest
Re: Whole Lotta Love
My engineer, Charlie Davis, does the distance miking thing in conjunction with close miking too, and I like my current recorded guitar tone better than any other recorded tone I've ever gotten. Close miking alone just doesn't get any of the sound of the room. And close miking sounds just like you've put your ear about 3" from the speaker...who wants to hear that???? :11: Lew