Who's the amp man?
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some_dude
Raging BB Gunologist
Re: Who's the amp man?
True. (although I'd say the list is closer to 1/3 amps, 2/3 features
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But some of those amps are features in and of themselves.
Leo Fender paid someone to design his amps, didn't he?
And besides the fact that Jim Marshall stuck an EL34 in a Fender Bassman circuit, what great advancements had he contributed to amplifier technology?
proxy said:I didn't a F-Series was a feature, or a Blue Angel. Half those "advances" are just amps they've designed
True. (although I'd say the list is closer to 1/3 amps, 2/3 features
)But some of those amps are features in and of themselves.
Leo Fender paid someone to design his amps, didn't he?
And besides the fact that Jim Marshall stuck an EL34 in a Fender Bassman circuit, what great advancements had he contributed to amplifier technology?
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Hot _Grits
Buttery Toneologist
Re: Who's the amp man?
Well,the Blue Angel did have the whole 6v6/el84 together or separate thing going on, which I'm pretty sure was an innovation, at least in a mass production amp.
All the amp designers have something to offer. To me, Leo Fender is the daddy. Marshall's original amp was a bassman with the wrong tubes, and the mesa mk1 was a modded fender princeton.
Well,the Blue Angel did have the whole 6v6/el84 together or separate thing going on, which I'm pretty sure was an innovation, at least in a mass production amp.
All the amp designers have something to offer. To me, Leo Fender is the daddy. Marshall's original amp was a bassman with the wrong tubes, and the mesa mk1 was a modded fender princeton.
Jeff_H
Dean Hardtail Fanologist
Re: Who's the amp man?
I can't believe no one has said Mike Soldano.
Gearjonsers list IMO is the proper pecking order. Those first 4 guys started the trend in 4 directions, and everyone has just evolved and refined from there. There are a handful of true circuit genious's out there today.
I can't believe no one has said Mike Soldano.
Gearjonsers list IMO is the proper pecking order. Those first 4 guys started the trend in 4 directions, and everyone has just evolved and refined from there. There are a handful of true circuit genious's out there today.
Quencho092
New member
Re: Who's the amp man?
it's not just about who has made the most advances in amplification, it's about how well they achieved the sound that people wanted. Marshall may have simply popped an el34 in a bassman circuit, but he hit the nail on the head for the rock tone that people wanted. For that, Marshall is the rock amp man for me. Fender's engineers in the past are the blues/jazz amp men. New amps like the long list of Mesas kick ass, but they haven't proved the test of time yet. Just opinion. The Fender/Marshall generation is not coming to an end, but someone will have to inherit the skills of amp making, and i think we're in good hands with rivera, soldano, mesa etc.
it's not just about who has made the most advances in amplification, it's about how well they achieved the sound that people wanted. Marshall may have simply popped an el34 in a bassman circuit, but he hit the nail on the head for the rock tone that people wanted. For that, Marshall is the rock amp man for me. Fender's engineers in the past are the blues/jazz amp men. New amps like the long list of Mesas kick ass, but they haven't proved the test of time yet. Just opinion. The Fender/Marshall generation is not coming to an end, but someone will have to inherit the skills of amp making, and i think we're in good hands with rivera, soldano, mesa etc.
Bludave
New member
Re: Who's the amp man?
I could never really find one Amp that could do it all. The newer Marshalls seem to be problematic. The old ones are amazing. To a degree the same applies to new Fenders. I have never felt comfortable with a Boogie..... To many knobs for me. I currently play through a 900 Marshall 50W Combo, A/B'd with a '69 Super reverb. I love this combination, but am considering replacing the Marshal with a Plexi 50W, and a 57 tweed low out put twin to replace the Super. So as you can see I tend to lean towards Marshalls and Fenders. IMO everything else is a simulation of these two great Amps.
I could never really find one Amp that could do it all. The newer Marshalls seem to be problematic. The old ones are amazing. To a degree the same applies to new Fenders. I have never felt comfortable with a Boogie..... To many knobs for me. I currently play through a 900 Marshall 50W Combo, A/B'd with a '69 Super reverb. I love this combination, but am considering replacing the Marshal with a Plexi 50W, and a 57 tweed low out put twin to replace the Super. So as you can see I tend to lean towards Marshalls and Fenders. IMO everything else is a simulation of these two great Amps.
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Lewguitar
Guest
Re: Who's the amp man?
My brother: Bruce Collins.
http://www.Missionamps.com
But you've got to give #1 to Leo Fender...everybody else just tweaked Leo's original designs.
Thurisarz said:Vote for other then!:fing25:
My brother: Bruce Collins.
http://www.Missionamps.com
But you've got to give #1 to Leo Fender...everybody else just tweaked Leo's original designs.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: Who's the amp man?
Lew...And Leo's designs were just copies of original Western Electric designs...LOL
Lewguitar said:
Lew...And Leo's designs were just copies of original Western Electric designs...LOL
Young Angus
Kometose Tonologist
Re: Who's the amp man?
Im gonna vote for Ken Fischer (Komet) and Horst Langer (ENGL)....two geniuses in my books!
Im gonna vote for Ken Fischer (Komet) and Horst Langer (ENGL)....two geniuses in my books!
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Lewguitar
Guest
Re: Who's the amp man?
Yes and no. Leo made them sound great...something no one was able to do before Leo. Leo invented the modern guitar amp...no one else really got it right before he did...tho there were many amps on the market before Leo came up with his models.
You're right tho: I've seen those Western Electric circuits.
Tube Guitar Amps are actually so simple...it's all in the tiny, little details, as you know.
It's the diff between my Chinese cooking and the Iron Chef's Chinese cooking :laugh2: ...tho we both might use the same ingredients.
Lew
STRATDELUXER97 said:
Yes and no. Leo made them sound great...something no one was able to do before Leo. Leo invented the modern guitar amp...no one else really got it right before he did...tho there were many amps on the market before Leo came up with his models.
You're right tho: I've seen those Western Electric circuits.
Tube Guitar Amps are actually so simple...it's all in the tiny, little details, as you know.
It's the diff between my Chinese cooking and the Iron Chef's Chinese cooking :laugh2: ...tho we both might use the same ingredients.
Lew
Re: Who's the amp man?
leo couldnt either, thats why his amps kept getting brighter. his hearing kept getting worse
whos the amp guy? tony bruno, mark sampson ect... those guys are doing what randy, leo, alexander and jim did in their eras. trying to make a better mouse trap
leo couldnt either, thats why his amps kept getting brighter. his hearing kept getting worse
whos the amp guy? tony bruno, mark sampson ect... those guys are doing what randy, leo, alexander and jim did in their eras. trying to make a better mouse trap
NecroPolo
New member
Re: Who's the amp man?
I'm a Marshall man myself so guess what...
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Aye, aye that Randall guy! I know Randall amps! Did he invent all of these thingies... wow... why did he go solid state? Ah I see there is no more challenge with tubes...!
:haha:
I'm a Marshall man myself so guess what...
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screamingdaisy said:
Aye, aye that Randall guy! I know Randall amps! Did he invent all of these thingies... wow... why did he go solid state? Ah I see there is no more challenge with tubes...!
:haha:
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That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: Who's the amp man?
I forgot to mention, add John Suhr to the list of modern amplification Gods.
I forgot to mention, add John Suhr to the list of modern amplification Gods.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Who's the amp man?
That's the one amp I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing. I'm not looking to buy, but the Stiletto just might be a classic, since it's Mesa's main leap into EL-34's.screamingdaisy said:
