Re: Who's the amp man?
jeremy said:
as much as i like the bogners that ive played, i dont think they are the be all and end all amps. its true they get a bunch of great tones, but ive gotten a better clean sound from a bruno, a better distorted sound from a spawn, a better dirty sound from a maven peal, a better slightly dirty sound from a bad cat ect...
its nice to have multiple tones in one box but i have yet to play thru an amp that could do it all. id rather have an amp that nails one perfect tone rather than gets real close to three.
I agree completely. I don't see your posts a lot of the time Jeremy, but you definitely show that you know your stuff in this post
There are a few shortcomings and misconceptions people have of Bogner amps. People think you can get anything and everything out of the amp and that's simply not true. The cleans can be pretty good, but a Bruno Cowtipper, Matchless Chieftain (most Matchless amps for that matter), many Fenders, Voxes etc. all have superior cleans.
Blue channel isn't a perfect plexi as many others have mentioned before. People think it's an exact JMP, Super Lead etc., and it does come close, but Bogner has his own twist on the sound. If you want dead-on plexi sounds, then amps like the Aiken Invader would be more up your ally.
If you're going to buy a Bogner, it will be for the red channel. That offers some of the most brutal and articulate distortion around and the lead tone is just incredible (aka why Steve Vai and Eric Johnson are two guys that have used the Ecstasy).
When you're looking at a multi-channel design, there are always some compromises. What I like on the Bad Cat Hot Cat is that there are two channels, but they are accessed only by a A/B/Y switch, so that keeps that wonderful single channel dedicated type tone in a multi-channel setup (there are other amp companies that offer this as well). Bogner's Ecstasy is probably the best amp to go from crystal clean to insanely heavy.
Ideally, if I had roadies and lots of cash, I'd buy top of the line boutique amps and then footswitch through them. Until then, there will be some sort of a sacrifice somewhere.
My biggest disappointment with new amps is that there are a lot that are ridiculously loud (aka 60w and above). All you'll ever need is 50, and I realize now that I like more in the 30-45 range than anything else.
