Who's using sh-1 59's

[jimmy]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

Wow, that is some special experience you had there, Jimmy... Many users love these p.u.'s so it may be the special character of your Gibson, your amp, your playing style or your taste. I mean, all these satisfied users, including the developers of the SH-1 can't be deaf, can they?

jeez, we have a real 59 hater on our hands here, lol. sorry you didnt dig them man, personally i love em. what did you replace them with just out of curiosity?

???? I don't know if this even really justifies a response.

Just because YOU don't like something for whatever kind of music you're playing doesn't mean that those who do like it are are "deaf". It's Seymour's flagship pickup fer cryin' out loud. I don't think he'd still be in business if only "deaf" people liked it. I'm certainly not deaf (although I'm getting there..) and I think 59s are one of the best-ever pickups in a Les Paul.. I'm sure many others agree.

:smack:

I hope this is a joke.

lol

Why do you guize have to hate just because I'm telling you what I think about the SH-1?


It's not like I hate Duncans.
I actually like the Jazz, the Distortion, JB, the Full Shred, and the Custom. Chillax.


I hated the SH-1's that came in my guitar. That's all there is to it.


What? Do I really need to type out I.M.O. after every sentence? LL.


k:

Since I'm the best, and all of you know this, I'm going to tell you what happened.



I bought a 79 LP Custom Silverburst. It came with SH-1's.
And, Holy Christ, they sounded terrible. It's not like I haven't played the SH-1's before.
These SH-1's were just complete garbage. I took them out ASAP (that means "as soon as possible," lolomgwtfdidhejustsayimeanreallyyesbutnobutyesrusrslygoingtotellmethatjimmydidntlikethesh1yesiamandthatsjusttthesadtruthofthemattersopleasedontaskhimtoexplaininthirdpersonlmfaobecausewhyareyoueverreadingthis)
I'm not sure what the guy before me did to those pickups, but they sounded horrible. And not even horribly good, but just horrible, like, Kathy Griffin Horrible, LL.
Maybe it was a fluke. Maybe it was a bum set. Maybe it was cursed by the dead and haunted Soul of Dario Argento.
I........................................................................................., really don't care why they sounded bad.
They just sounded bad.

Oh, wait, I think that calls for an IMO, right?

Let me try:

They

Just​

Sounded​

Bad.

IMO, which means "in my opinion" for those of you who aren't l33t.


I now have some rad DiMarzio PAF's in there with Chrome or Nickel covers.
I like low output humbuckers in my geets, and I like to dial in the high gain for blazing heavy meh-tull with my amp.
FYI: I'm playing a 50/CL by VHT rite now.

But I also play; blues, hard rock, funk, pop, country, jazz, death metal, black metal, glam rock, 70's rock, garage rock, stoner rock, deathcore, grindcore, power metal, blue grass, salsa, classical, progressive metal, grunge, shred, fusion, and punk, and I'm a ploymath.

That said, J-man!

Outty!

 

[hanumanlangur]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

:smack:

I prefer walters to this guy, by a long shot.

 

[eggman]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

Howdy,

I wanted to chime in here. My ES-335 has a set of '59s and it sounds much more like an ES-335 should compared to the way she was stock. By "stock", I mean with Gibson's "Dirty Fingers", which are the heavily overwound Ceramic brutes originally in my 1980 ES-335 CRR.
I enjoy my ES-335 now. (Being a Chuck Berry enthusiast, an ES-335 seemed natural to me.) I'd recommend the '59s to anyone seeking vintage style HBer tone. 59s can really overdrive my little old Vibro Champ; great for gettin' my Ya-Ya's out!

Eggman

 

[jimmy]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

:smack:

I prefer walters to this guy, by a long shot.

 

[MikeS]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

I like the '59N in the neck of my LP right now. It's paired with a 59B that was rewound to PATB-3 specs. Very cool set. Compared to the Jazz in it before, the 59n has a smoother and warmer tone. It reacts quite well to volume and tone knob adjustments. Nice pickup. Now excuse me while I go back to being deaf.

Let's play nice, bros. Contrary to what some may believe (or understand), it is possible to convey an opinion in a manner that isn't purposefully degrading towards those who don't share the same opinion.

 

[wonko the sane]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

Call me Goldilocks. I think the '59 is "just right" in my SG. The bridge is bright and airy and the neck is mellow without being muddy. Everything sounds "open." They're just plain old pickups. And that's a good thing IMHO.

 

[cheezemaster]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

Gee. I wish i knew how to post in crazy font sizes and colors..

 

[jimmy]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

Gee. I wish i knew how to post in crazy font sizes and colors..

It's as easy as apple pie, Cheesemaster!

 

[cheezemaster]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

It's as easy as apple pie, Cheesemaster!

Why all the hostility??!!

1. There's a thread discussing the merits of a certain guitar pickup.

2. You bust in and say that anyone who likes said pickup must be "deaf"

3. Several people including myself point out the ignorance of this statement.

4. You post a multi-colored multi-font-sized rant about how you're titled to your opinion.

You are entitled to your opinion. Frankly, you're just being a jerk about it.

Whatever, I'm done with this discussion.. LATER.

 

[Jacques]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

Only the fact that Jimmy is over reacting shows there must be something else that's bothering him. Let us leave him in peace.

 

[Jacques]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

My family came from the Netherlands and I have always wanted to visit, maybe if I do we can sit down and play some great guitar together.

Then you better start saving with those dollars at an all time low....:usa2:

 

[drew_half_empty]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

no man i gotta stop this, don't believe people about 59's being muddy or anything like that

like do they have a lot of bass? yeah, but it's cool, and man, playing with 59's in both positions is like heaven, like i forgot what these are going in but if you have like 2 volume & tone knobs it's just like... tweak em a bit, know your spots, and you're golden for any sound you want

don't mod your pickups man that's lame, that's not what rock & roll is about. Just get a set of those things and know how to work your guitar

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

All I have to add is some of the bridge pickups that work like 'modified 59 sets.'

If you like it very traditional and with possibly the best middle position tone, go with the matched set.

If you want a slightly hopped up set, make a C5/59 hybrid your bridge pickup.

If you want a very beefy 59B, pay the Custom Shop price and get a Brobucker. Specify that it's potted like all other Duncans.

If you want a ballsy and heavy, yet clear tone, get a Custom 5.

For the all out heavy and crushing rock/metal tone, get a Custom/59n.

 

[bluesboy53]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

Then you better start saving with those dollars at an old time low....:usa2:

Yes travel is not good right now but I do work for a Airline and I can travel cheap

 

[hanumanlangur]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

Why all the hostility??!!

1. There's a thread discussing the merits of a certain guitar pickup.

2. You bust in and say that anyone who likes said pickup must be "deaf"

3. Several people including myself point out the ignorance of this statement.

4. You post a multi-colored multi-font-sized rant about how you're titled to your opinion.

You are entitled to your opinion. Frankly, you're just being a jerk about it.

+1.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

Hi Guys!

Some thoughts:

1. The 59B is a clone of a 50's alnico 5 Gibson paf with the cover removed.

2. Back in the 50's and 60's and 70's Gibson used the same pickup for the bridge position and neck position. So SG's, Les Pauls, 335's, etc. would have had two pickups just like the 59B.

3. Most of the recordings made with Gibson guitars played by guys like Duane Allman, Eric Clapton, Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Larry Carlton, BB King, Albert King, etc. that today's players are still trying to cop the tones of were recorded with guitars with stock Gibson humbuckers virtually identical to the 59B.

4. If you're playing loud and you want a clean tone from the neck humbucker, a vintage 8.2K Gibson humbucker or 59B might sound muddy when you turn the volume of your guitar down to get a clean tone. That's why Seymour underwinds the 59N about 1K lighter than the 59B. He also does that because when a humbucker is placed in the neck position it will be alot louder and bassier than if that same pickup was placed in the bridge position.

5. The Jazz neck is similar to the 59 neck but has more sparkle and upper harmonics. It is a little clearer and more articulate at loud volumes than the 59N but it may or may not have more bass than you need if you're a player like me who wants the tone of a Strat neck pickup when I switch to the neck pickup to play clean.

6. Most of the rock players I hear these days rarely play with a clean tone. Although there's a lot of virtuosity (at least rock virtuosity) most of the "modern" rock players I hear play with the same super saturated "bagful of angry bumble bees" super distorted tone as everyone else. If that's your bag then the 59N might be just fine. The 59N sure worked just fine for Dimebag Darrell. However, it's not clear enough for me, and although I have one in my Fender Big Apple Strat it's going to be replaced by a Jazz neck or Pearly Gates neck humbucker someday soon.

7. Regarding today's rock players all tending to sound alike to me, I think it's because a humbuckers through an affects pedal or amp set for a super distorted tone robs players of an individual voice. If you play a little cleaner, your own touch and personality come out. Which is why guys like BB King, Albert King, Duane Allman, Larry Carlton, Wes Montgomery, etc. all used humbuckers but had individual tones and tones distinct from each other. But maybe you guys who love super distorted virtuoso rock feel the same way about the different players that YOU love. I don't hear much difference when I listen to the overdriven tones of Paul Gilbert or Buckethead or Jason Becker or whoever. But it's probably because although I can appreciate that kind of playing, I don't really have enough interest or affinity for it to pay attention to the subtle differences between different players who play in that style.

8. One thing's for sure: I always know if it Carlos Santana or BB King or Albert King playing. Those guys really have their own voice even though all use similar humbucking pickups.

Just my .02 cents.

 

[jimmy]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

Why all the hostility??!!

1. There's a thread discussing the merits of a certain guitar pickup.

2. You bust in and say that anyone who likes said pickup must be "deaf"

3. Several people including myself point out the ignorance of this statement.

4. You post a multi-colored multi-font-sized rant about how you're titled to your opinion.

You are entitled to your opinion. Frankly, you're just being a jerk about it.

Whatever, I'm done with this discussion.. LATER.

Only the fact that Jimmy is over reacting shows there must be something else that's bothering him. Let us leave him in peace.

+1.

Much love!

I love you guys. Stay golden, Pony Boy.

 

[theodie]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

no man i gotta stop this, don't believe people about 59's being muddy or anything like that

Drew, you play alot of cleans dont you?

I dont like the 59's too much with much dirt but, they are my favorite buckers clean. Radius the poles a bit and they work wonders.

 

[bluesboy53]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

Hi Guys!

Some thoughts:

1. The 59B is a clone of a 50's alnico 5 Gibson paf with the cover removed.

2. Back in the 50's and 60's and 70's Gibson used the same pickup for the bridge position and neck position. So SG's, Les Pauls, 335's, etc. would have had two pickups just like the 59B.

3. Most of the recordings made with Gibson guitars played by guys like Duane Allman, Eric Clapton, Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Larry Carlton, BB King, Albert King, etc. that today's players are still trying to cop the tones of were recorded with guitars with stock Gibson humbuckers virtually identical to the 59B.

4. If you're playing loud and you want a clean tone from the neck humbucker, a vintage 8.2K Gibson humbucker or 59B might sound muddy when you turn the volume of your guitar down to get a clean tone. That's why Seymour underwinds the 59N about 1K lighter than the 59B. He also does that because when a humbucker is placed in the neck position it will be alot louder and bassier than if that same pickup was placed in the bridge position.

5. The Jazz neck is similar to the 59 neck but has more sparkle and upper harmonics. It is a little clearer and more articulate at loud volumes than the 59N but it may or may not have more bass than you need if you're a player like me who wants the tone of a Strat neck pickup when I switch to the neck pickup to play clean.

6. Most of the rock players I hear these days rarely play with a clean tone. Although there's a lot of virtuosity (at least rock virtuosity) most of the "modern" rock players I hear play with the same super saturated "bagful of angry bumble bees" super distorted tone as everyone else. If that's your bag then the 59N might be just fine. The 59N sure worked just fine for Dimebag Darrell. However, it's not clear enough for me, and although I have one in my Fender Big Apple Strat it's going to be replaced by a Jazz neck or Pearly Gates neck humbucker someday soon.

7. Regarding today's rock players all tending to sound alike to me, I think it's because a humbuckers through an affects pedal or amp set for a super distorted tone robs players of an individual voice. If you play a little cleaner, your own touch and personality come out. Which is why guys like BB King, Albert King, Duane Allman, Larry Carlton, Wes Montgomery, etc. all used humbuckers but had individual tones and tones distinct from each other. But maybe you guys who love super distorted virtuoso rock feel the same way about the different players that YOU love. I don't hear much difference when I listen to the overdriven tones of Paul Gilbert or Buckethead or Jason Becker or whoever. But it's probably because although I can appreciate that kind of playing, I don't really have enough interest or affinity for it to pay attention to the subtle differences between different players who play in that style.

8. One thing's for sure: I always know if it Carlos Santana or BB King or Albert King playing. Those guys really have their own voice even though all use similar humbucking pickups.

Just my .02 cents.

So I did chose the right pickup for the neck the Jazz. Because I too like the tone of the neck pickup on a strat just not the humm!

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Who's using sh-1 59's

The Jazz split really sounds like a strat neck. I use a Jazz bridge in the neck of one LP, which also has pullup tone knobs to split the coils. It's surprising to hear such a nice single coil tone coming from a Les Paul.

I use that goldtop LP as a testbed for new bridge humbuckers, but the Jazz B always remains in the neck position.