ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: Why are Gibson toggle switches so bad?
My flakey switch is between the knobs
And brand new
Hmmm
My flakey switch is between the knobs
And brand new
Hmmm
Why are Gibson toggle switches so bad?
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beaubrummels
Well-known member
Why are Gibson toggle switches so bad?
You accidentally put your strap on the switch? I'd have to drink quite a bit to do that.
You accidentally put your strap on the switch? I'd have to drink quite a bit to do that.
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Wattage
High Voltologist
Re: Why are Gibson toggle switches so bad?
Design error not taking longevity into account
Sure, you never accidentally jar it when playing.... but putting it on and taking it off may be another story
Also, 5-7 position blades have a different basic design and FAR more throw and more positions, making it unlikely that you'll accidentally slam it into one of the corner positions and then exert excessive force past it - its practically impossible
Catching it on your arm or your clothing when putting guitar on or off exerts far more force on it than is normally applied with a flick of a finger or a wrist to operate it
Design error not taking longevity into account
Sure, you never accidentally jar it when playing.... but putting it on and taking it off may be another story
Also, 5-7 position blades have a different basic design and FAR more throw and more positions, making it unlikely that you'll accidentally slam it into one of the corner positions and then exert excessive force past it - its practically impossible
Catching it on your arm or your clothing when putting guitar on or off exerts far more force on it than is normally applied with a flick of a finger or a wrist to operate it
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ehdwuld
A Ficus
toowrongfoo
New member
Re: Why are Gibson toggle switches so bad?
I only have one thought: My Carvin is a LP/PRS'ish guitar with that switch (I think? ) and it's stellar. Maybe look into that.
I only have one thought: My Carvin is a LP/PRS'ish guitar with that switch (I think? ) and it's stellar. Maybe look into that.
JeffB
Let it B
Re: Why are Gibson toggle switches so bad?
Have had switchcraft switch tabs fubar when I bought them aftermarket, and could not get them back right, but I suppose that was an issue caused by the vendor/storage. But I have not had issue with a stock switch that came in a guitar. Between the tabs and the way the switch is wired and the way the wires have to scoot through the body, it's a wonder more switch problems are not heard of.
Now bad switches?..crackle, stop working/bad contacts over time, have had several junk switches on imports do that..mij, mik, mic etc.
Have had switchcraft switch tabs fubar when I bought them aftermarket, and could not get them back right, but I suppose that was an issue caused by the vendor/storage. But I have not had issue with a stock switch that came in a guitar. Between the tabs and the way the switch is wired and the way the wires have to scoot through the body, it's a wonder more switch problems are not heard of.
Now bad switches?..crackle, stop working/bad contacts over time, have had several junk switches on imports do that..mij, mik, mic etc.
Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: Why are Gibson toggle switches so bad?
True. All switches have what's called "self-wiping" action. It's mainly to break the little arc weld on higher power switches. LP style switches were originally designed for old-school higher voltage telephone systems.
Yup again. Whenever I'm walking through a guitar store I find myself flipping all the LP switches back to the center position.
True. All switches have what's called "self-wiping" action. It's mainly to break the little arc weld on higher power switches. LP style switches were originally designed for old-school higher voltage telephone systems.
Yup again. Whenever I'm walking through a guitar store I find myself flipping all the LP switches back to the center position.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Why are Gibson toggle switches so bad?
Exactly. It's a fix that takes seconds, lasts for years, the toggle's still good. There's no need to replace them. Slightly bend one or both prongs. Looking at it from the side, you can see them make, or not make contact. One thing that will help is that when the guitar's unplugged, to leave the toggle in the middle position so there's no pressure on the prongs (which is what causes most of the shorting problems).
Exactly. It's a fix that takes seconds, lasts for years, the toggle's still good. There's no need to replace them. Slightly bend one or both prongs. Looking at it from the side, you can see them make, or not make contact. One thing that will help is that when the guitar's unplugged, to leave the toggle in the middle position so there's no pressure on the prongs (which is what causes most of the shorting problems).
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