Why are some kind of amps hard to play ?

Hello i tried for the first time a vintage plexi a 100w monster.

I don't understand why but each time i played it, it sounded and felt like i wasn't muting the strings what i was actually doing.

Is that because at high volume we hear every single tiny noise coming from the strings ?

Wow i think im gonna need to practice at high volumes...
 
Re: Why are some kind of amps hard to play ?

Loud and clean your picking better be lean. Or get a compressor.


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Fender amps made me a cleaner player.


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What do you expect when the amp is loud enough to change the direction of rivers?
 
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Well i wanted to be able to play a 100w plexi to do some covers with friends it seems it will take a long time to reach this level...

Any advices to achieve the objective ?

cleaning my picking by playing low distortion amps seems the solution ?
 
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No distortion will help hone your skills.


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Mainly pick attack.


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Practice regularly through a JTM45, Bassman, Deluxe Reverb, AC30.. ect... It's more productive for improving dynamic playing techniques and especially developing touch IME. It's better than practicing on acoustic too.
 
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IMO practice on the same sort of gain-response amp/pedals as you're intending on using most often,,,,,,,,unless you use a variety of stuff which will obviously help you're adaptability.
 
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Seems like a lot of players who play clean all the time don't know how to use distortion, and the players who use heavy distortion can't get a decent clean tone. Definitely something in the fingers.

I played clean for years on a high-powered SUNN SS combo, then went back to using a tube amp...BF Fenders and a Marshall for more pushed tones. VERY different feel; I won't say one style is better than another. But when I got my first Mesa, it was like it all came together for me: a great clean tone, and the drive tone I'd been searching for.

The big Mark III had incredible headroom, but at the same time...a very liquid feel under my fingers. I became a better player almost instantly. It had the flexibility I needed, and it was just inspiring to play. A lot of amps just can't do that. There are companies whose amps I want to like, but every time I play one, it sounds dry, clinical, sterile. No thanks.

Volume is another issue. If you're used to playing quietly at home or in a club, you get used to the amp's response at that level. Move onto a big stage where you're cranking the volume...the tubes work harder, you're pushing more air, and all of a sudden the guitar feels alive in your hands. You're totally out of your comfort zone, trying to deal with the extra compression and sustain while on the verge of feedback. Though, when you get used to that, it can be addictive. That feel of a pushed amp is one of the reasons so many players have moved from the 100-watt behemoths to smaller 15-to-35-watt amps. That said a BIG pushed amp can be a lot of fun, when you get used to it.

Pickups can play a role too. It can be miserable playing a screeching microphonic pickup at high volume, but a mildly microphonic pickup can be a good thing.

I don't practice on a little practice amp. It's better for me to play the amp I'm going to be gigging with, with the features and tones I'll be using. Makes no sense to me to spend hours fiddling with a tiny, tinny amp....when I could be fine-tuning the amp I'm going to play with.

So I'd say, practice on that Plexi. Learn to run it at the volume(s) you'll be playing at, and you will learn to play with the right feel.

And a loud Plexi? Better invest in some serious ear protection!

Good luck.

Bill
 
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Re: Why are some kind of amps hard to play ?

There's an art to playing high watt/high decibel music. It definitely takes practice. It's another world of playing in some ways.
 
Re: Why are some kind of amps hard to play ?

My initial response to the thread title was going to be "Because you suck."

But I think you will take the with the grain of salt it is/was intended as you have seen multiple posts regarding the importance of very precise control. And that is absolutely true.
 
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I find all 100 watt amps without a modern master volume control to fall into that hard to play category.

That’s why I use small amps. 20 watts...30 watts when I play my AC30, and that amp is almost too loud for most rooms.
 
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I used to just love to crank up the gain and do power chords, I was about that shiz for the first several years of playing/learning. but doing that on really dirty amps, often modeling amps, hid my sloppy playing behind gobs of blurry gain!

When I got a DSL50 it was my first loud amp and it really showed off how bad I suck!

Clean playing can enhance your dirty technique but generally, practice most at the volume and gain you want to sound good at.
 
Re: Why are some kind of amps hard to play ?

Some gear just requires you to be a better player to get the goods out of it. Often these kinds of amps and axes reward the effort tho because all the extra sensitivity means you can do more with your fingers.
Some gear sounds bad no matter how well you play although i am pretty sure a vintage plexi isn't one of them.
 
Re: Why are some kind of amps hard to play ?

I find all 100 watt amps without a modern master volume control to fall into that hard to play category.

That’s why I use small amps. 20 watts...30 watts when I play my AC30, and that amp is almost too loud for most rooms.

Something else I have a hard time with is Amps with a hard wired bright cap across the volume control that’s to big and which makes the amp too bright at low to medium volume levels. Plexis are one of those amps. My Deluxe Reverb is another but I modified it with a smaller than stock cap. These days most players use pedals, and pedals through an amp that’s too bright can be really uncomfortable. Not to mention hard on the ears and hard to dial in a sweet tone that’s not too glassy and full of grainy sizzle. Better to have no bright cap at all than one that makes the amp too bright.
 
Re: Why are some kind of amps hard to play ?

It's also easier to play a loud amp when it's amongst other equally loud, competing instruments. Drums in particular.
 
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