Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

[Johnny T]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

Evan:
My friend has Yammy SE211 with a Floyd and a push-pull splitting the Hum bridge. He wants me to install a PG at the bridge and install a 'bridge position' SRV Strat PU in the neck. The responses I have received state that the regular PG, with the Floyd will be too bright and "rip your head clean off". The SRV will be fine but I may have to do some correction phase wiring.

What do you think?

Johnny T

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

Evan:
My friend has Yammy SE211 with a Floyd and a push-pull splitting the Hum bridge. He wants me to install a PG at the bridge and install a 'bridge position' SRV Strat PU in the neck. The responses I have received state that the regular PG, with the Floyd will be too bright and "rip your head clean off". The SRV will be fine but I may have to do some correction phase wiring.

What do you think?

Johnny T

I think the responses are coming from people who:

a. Can't play guitar

b. Have never heard a PGb

c. Are just barfing up a lot of nonsense they've read on the internet

d. All three: a, b & c

 

[LtKojak]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

I don't think SD has ever identified the actual gauge of wire used in the JB and Custom series pickups. But I have also heard that it is 44 in the JB, 43 in the Customs and 42 in the 59.

This is correct, and it's single-coat poly wire. The wind pattern is different in all three p'ups you've mentioned.

HTH,

 

[Diocletian]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

The responses I have received state that the regular PG, with the Floyd will be too bright and "rip your head clean off".

Who did you ask? Clint Eastwood? :friday: Nice 5 year old thread resurrection, this is a cool one, lots of great info here! :1:

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

Why do these old threads keep popping up?!

 

[TattooedCarrot]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

I've heard of being late to the party in regards to entering a conversation already in progress, but 5 years is pushing it a little. Half the posters in this thread probably aren't even around anymore, LOL.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

I think this thread was referenced in another current thread, so it got brought back.

Now that I know a heck of a lot more about HSS setups, and pickups in general since 2004, I'd say that my favorite combo ended up being a C5/59 hybrid and the Fender Fat 50's. There's a lot of others I liked too, like the Jazz Bridge/Surfers.

 

[Evan Skopp]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

Evan:
My friend has Yammy SE211 with a Floyd and a push-pull splitting the Hum bridge. He wants me to install a PG at the bridge and install a 'bridge position' SRV Strat PU in the neck. The responses I have received state that the regular PG, with the Floyd will be too bright and "rip your head clean off". The SRV will be fine but I may have to do some correction phase wiring.

What do you think?

Johnny T

Hi Johnny T:

Welcome to the UGF. I'm not sure what a Yammy is and there are lot of details about the guitar that you don't give. But I can tell you that the Pearly Gates is not a particularly bright pickup. The Alnico 2 magnet tends to give a softer attack on the note which your ear translates as warmth. I assume by "SRV Strat PU" you mean a Texas Special. The Pearly Gates will match well with Texas Specials.

Your friend and his Yammy should be just fine.

I hope that helps.

- EAS

 

[BloodRose]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

yammy is probably Yamaha. :friday:

 

[philthis]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

I love my PG+ pickup. It cuts right thru the mix and has a nice snapy-ness to it and an awsome sizzle on the distortion notes. Its my favorite SD pickup. I like the res peak 6 ish. I'm hopeing to get SD to custom wire me some P-Rails with the hum bridge position to be around 6 ish if possible.
:beerchug:

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

Read Ken Fisher's comments on the Pearly Gates Plus. http://www.ultimateguitargear.com/ken_fischer_chapter2_2.htm

He says the PG Plus is bright and a little thin - that's why it works so well as a bridge humbucker paired with Strat single coils. That's the way Fender intended it to be used.

The PG plus is wound slightly hotter than the PG. It's NOT just a PG with an alnico 5 magnet instead of an alnico 2 magnet. It's also wound with an extra few hundred turn of wire according to Evan.

 

[Johnny T]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

Who did you ask? Clint Eastwood? :friday: Nice 5 year old thread resurrection, this is a cool one, lots of great info here! :1:

Actually it was Clint... The names have been changed to protect the innocent on this forum.

 

[Johnny T]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

Hi Johnny T:

Welcome to the UGF. I'm not sure what a Yammy is and there are lot of details about the guitar that you don't give. But I can tell you that the Pearly Gates is not a particularly bright pickup. The Alnico 2 magnet tends to give a softer attack on the note which your ear translates as warmth. I assume by "SRV Strat PU" you mean a Texas Special. The Pearly Gates will match well with Texas Specials.

Your friend and his Yammy should be just fine.

I hope that helps.

- EAS

Thanks Evan!

Answers and involvement from the top of the company. Now that is a company that cares about what I think and need.

BTW... yes, Yammy is Yamaha. The guitar has a flat mount floyd bridge and original Yam PU's. Well built... but needs improvement in the sound area. The guitar is used as one of many for a cover band.

 

[speed2dirt]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

Why did Seymour Duncan or Fender choose not to retail the Pearly Gates Plus? Can it be ordered from SD? Also, was it only available in white? I loved this in the original Lonestar strat I played back in 1998. That was alder with maple neck and rosewood fretboard and had great clarity. I'm curious how it would sound in the bridge of an all mahogany set-neck double-cut guitar with string-through body tailpiece and paired with a 59 neck. Opinions?

 

[lemonman]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

You can buy them through Fender. They're usually available new from some of the 'bay sellers.

There may have been some in black, but the vast majority are parchment.

 

[El CHupacabra]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

^ YOu could just get a Pearly Gates and replace the A2 magnet bar w/ an A5 aftermarket.


And to Evan,
That Pearly Gates is most definitely bright, Birdge A2 model in my stratocaster can brighten up very well. Even at 7-8 it starts sounding Tele bright/sharp. Not that I have a problem with that.

Also, do you guys at Seymour Duncan sell covers for your pickups (like chrome?) if not, what covers will fit a Pearly Gates, Normal Spaced? Links or names?

 

[speed2dirt]

Re: Why Did Fender/Seymour decide on the Pearly Gates?

^ YOu could just get a Pearly Gates and replace the A2 magnet bar w/ an A5 aftermarket.

On the previous page, Evan stated that it also has several hundred more winds than the traditional Pearly Gates. I wonder why they kept the same name when the number of winds and magnet are different. I did not know they ever came in black. I'll have to keep my eyes open for one of those.

Anyone have an idea what the PGB+ would sound like in the guitar I described above (mahogany)?