Why I like Ibanez, but also what they’ve done wrong.

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Why I like Ibanez, but also what they’ve done wrong.

I’ve always been a bit of an Ibanez fan since I first started playing. At the time the guitar I really wanted was a destroyer… preferably a 555 (the Phil Collen model).
It was these X series guitars that first grabbed me. They were so… well metal, how could a 14 year old Maiden fan want anything but.
I got my first Ibanez in ’89, it was a dark purple, roadstar II Bass. Great instrument, low action, good woody natural tone, big sound from the pickups and it was purple. I had this bass for over fifteen years and I eventually sold it for more than I paid for it… which doesn’t happen very often.
Not long after I bought the bass I found myself handing over almost certainly over the odds for a candy apple red Destroyer… just like Adrian Smith didn’t use anymore, apart from mine was the cheaper version.
I can’t really remember much about this guitar, I know the action was nice and low but I can’t remember it being special in any way, even with the Dimarzio pickups. But it looked great, but I wanted a locking trem and it got traded in for a Charvel.
For the next few years I stick mainly to bass, the charvel getting sold to pay the rent and my musical life falling more and more into the back ground as other aspects of life took over.
Just over five years ago I find myself in a music shop with my new girlfriend (now wife) eyeing up an Ibanez SA, she insists I try it and what struck me was I’d really missed playing electric guitar, and also these Korean made instruments were really good for the money, my girlfriend then bought it for me… did I mention that she’s now my wife!
Good guitars the SA’s, but a little bland in terms of playability and tone. There’s nothing wrong with them, the action low, the neck not to fat, not too thin, tone is kinda neutral, but not dull, hardware all works. It’s just a good solid guitar. Mine’s been quite modded down the years and is now my main slide guitar.
Last year I find myself, once again, in a music shop this time eyeing up yet another Ibanez… this time a soundgear SR700 bass. I’d always wanted a soundgear since they came out and here it was in my hands and it played lovely, once again all those Ibanez traits were there, slim neck, low action and great playability, coupled with good tone, solid construction and finish, not bad considering it was made in Indonesia. My Wife bought it for me.
My latest Ibby is the RG I made from spare bits and oil finished. Thing about this thing is that mutt guitars usually end up playing like dogs and not really fitting together very well. My last mutt was a Kramer striker neck onto a focus body, which was always a pig to play.
This were Ibanez really score well, neck was MIK, body MIJ, just like the Kramer, difference it fits together like a hand in glove (the neck joint is tight enough to lift the whole assembly by the headstock unbolted). Once assembled a quick set up was that was needed to make this one of the easiest guitars to play that I’ve ever owned.
To some up what I like about Ibanez is the looks, the playability (they seem to make guitars ideally suited to my tiny fingers) and consistency of quality.
This last point is also one of the down points. No matter where Ibanez set up a factory the product that comes out of the other end will be the same. They are the McDonald’s of guitar production where you know in advance what you’re going to get, just don’t expect anymore. These days they’re not the only ones mass producing to high standards either. ESP/LTD seem to make very solid guitars and the PRS SE’s have a great reputation.
Also, why does the Edge III trem need a different routing to all the other edge trems… why?
Also, I don’t like the ZR trem, not saying it’s bad, in fact it’s very clever and, by all accounts, works very, very well. I just don’t like the feel of it.

I’ve owned fourteen electric guitars and basses down the years, five of them have been Ibanez, only one other brand has more than one entry and that’s Tokai with two entries.
 
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i'm kind of the same way. i've owned way too many guitars for how horribly i play and how long i've been playing, and the one brand that keeps popping back up is ibanez.

i've owned 2 gibsons, a USA peavey wolfgang, a fender telecaster (for a very short time), and i think all the rest have been ibanez! RGR521, RGA121, RG570, SA120, GAX70, and i believe thats it. i realized after i got my les paul that the thin necks were what was causing my hands to cramp when i played, so i don't know if i'll be going back to ibanez' shred guitars. i've always really liked the SZ series, so many i'll look into those! they have a nice medium neck on them
 
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I have a 1990 RG570 and a soundgear 305 bass. both are excellent..Ive repeatedly considered selling the RG, but hate to part with it.. The bass is a great player!
 
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I have a 1990 RG570 and a soundgear 305 bass. both are excellent..Ive repeatedly considered selling the RG, but hate to part with it.. The bass is a great player!

I had a Strat for years lost it in a family misunderstanding
went to replace it with an Epi LP and stumbled on the only guitar that made me want a back up for it
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my RG2


Hey Bloodrose
my nephew has one of the soundgear basses and was thinking bout changing the Pickups
was wonderin if yours were stock or if you might have a suggestion on what
to swap his with

I think he said his was the PJ setup
 
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not enough cool-looking Artists in production.
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****ing 1981? People are gonna want $$ for it and it's not even a real Les Paul.

I hate the modern shred guitars and would buy a stripped-down Ibanez Artist if it was black with white binding like my Les Paul.
 
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****ing 1981? People are gonna want $$ for it and it's not even a real Les Paul.

I hate the modern shred guitars and would buy a stripped-down Ibanez Artist if it was black with white binding like my Les Paul.

I've got a soft spot for the artist, but they're really expensive if you want MIJ, we're talking PRS kinda money, which means passing buy a bunch of Gibsons, Hamers, etc...
 
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not enough cool-looking Artists in production.
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****ing 1981? People are gonna want $$ for it and it's not even a real Les Paul.

I hate the modern shred guitars and would buy a stripped-down Ibanez Artist if it was black with white binding like my Les Paul.

there's a '78 of the same model at the GC by my house for 2K. it's been sitting there for a while. got to play it when it first came in though:)
 
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^ yeah. they're just not worth that to me. you can get real Les Pauls from the same era for that money.
 
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When Ibanez and Yamaha first started making set neck guitars like the artist and the SG2000 they were basically better guitars than anything Gibson produced at the time for less money.
These days the Gibson's are much more consistant, although probably not up to Japanese standards, and the artist is more in the uk than a Gibson LP standard or a Hamer Studio.
The Ibanez may be one great guitar, but it needs to be for that price.
 
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^ okay that's cool but my 1987 Les Paul Custom plays and sounds better than anything I've ever touched from Japan and it was like $1700. Anybody charging $2000 for what can at best be called a knock-off is...high, probly.
 
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I love Ibanez and while I don't mind THAT much that they've pidgeonholed themselves into the shred market (because they make killer semis and non-shred guitars) I hate that I can't get most models I love from them in colors other than a shade of black.

Seriously, the RG7321 (since 2010) and RGA7 are two of the coolest guitars out there and one of the gripes I have with both is they come in only one color. Black. Well the RGA7 comes with EMG routes and a AA battery set up (wtf?) which I don't appreciate that much but it can be dealt with.

Another seriously cool guitar that only comes in black is the seven string prestige RGD. Really if they offered all their models in various finishes I'd be so happy. One of the hottest looking Ibbys was the RGT320...the sunburst was beautiful.

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I was literally a couple of minutes too late to buy one of these:

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And check this out:

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Sure those last two are LACS models, but seriously the first two are just as hot, discontinued but findable, regular Prestige models, and they're not black.
 
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I have to represent the Ibanez Artist crew. I have an '83 Artist 150 in a opalescent finish. This thing weighs a ton but sounds better than a lot of Gibson I've played recently. Payed $600 for it about 6 years ago and haven't regretted it. I also have a seafoam Artcore, and I find that over the years that you can pick up some great Ibanez guitars for not too much. They may not be the name everyone wants but there are some great players in there.
 
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I used to have an EX350 and for about 5 years it was my main axe. Then I needed to replace the trem because I wore it out. Ebay and online parts places didn't exist (at least not like they are today), so the only way to get one was ordr it through a dealer, which I did.

3 months later, it came in.

2 days before it came in, I traded the guitar for a Jackson Kelly.
 
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I play an Ibanez AEL40SE electro acoustic. I've always loved it from the moment i picked it up in the shop.

The neck is only slightly thinner than my Strat, very comfortable to play. The tone is phenomenal. I thought it sounded as good as guitars twice its price tag.

I've also played a friend's S470 a fair bit. That one's a bit too shred-sticky for me, (neck too thin, frets too big, fretboard radius too big) but he can get a huge range of sounds out of that thing. Again, I think its killer value for the price he paid.

I've also tried a few of their semis and was very impressed.

Good value for money seems to be a running theme.
 
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Re: Why I like Ibanez, but also what they’ve done wrong.

I love Ibanez and while I don't mind THAT much that they've pidgeonholed themselves into the shred market (because they make killer semis and non-shred guitars) I hate that I can't get most models I love from them in colors other than a shade of black.

I hear ya there, although it's not just Ibanez, or guitar companies.
It's almost impossible to buy a new car in the uk that isn't black or silver.
Just how dull.

Back to Ibanez and their fixation with black on their more metal guitars why oh why did they only do the DT700 in that depressing trans black finish?

Actually I don't think they got the finish right on any of the recent destroyer re-issues. The red was two plain, black was ok but just too, well, black for me.
Oddly the natural probably looked the best, but that may have been due to the fact I could easily visualise doing a re-fin in candy apple.

The world needs more candy apple red guitars :)
 
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I've also played a friend's S470 a fair bit. That one's a bit too shred-sticky for me, (neck too thin, frets too big, fretboard radius too big) but he can get a huge range of sounds out of that thing. Again, I think its killer value for the price he paid.

Try an SC420. Fixed wrapover bridge, PRS scale length, chunkier assymetrical neck profile. Mine is totally stock APART from those horrid orangey-brown pearlescent plastic tuner buttons.
 
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My first new guitar was a 90-91 Jewel Blue RG570. I remember that blue just jumping off of the wall at me!! She's long gone and I have very fond memories. To date, my 83' RS1010SL is still, HANDS DOWN, the easiest playing (for me) guitar that I own. And,, the bridge pickup absolutely smokes.

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Those Ibanez RS models were nice. Even the cheapest, single HB, RS135 - especially when Seymourised. ;)
 
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I've owned an old cheap Ibanez Blazer, still use the DE-7 delay and played a lot of models on different occasions. The other guys in my band, both play Ibanez (a bass and an acoustic) and they are very happy with them but I just don't click with their products.

The cheaper ones (that I own/owned) are kind of lame, the more expensive models just don't impress me. The DE7, BTW, is not a bad pedal, it's just not really impressive.


If they would ever produce a John Scofield model with chrome hardware and a different finish (preferably red or black) - I know that I'll give the brand another chance. :D
 
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my artist am-50 semihollow is a very sweet guitar - i've modded it so its not worth much now, but i have no interest in selling anyway

my 540s sabre is also very happenin - i cant play a neck that thin anymore, btu tonally its really killer

the only ibanez i'd probably ever consider buying at this point is a George Benson model - gb10 in blonde
 
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