Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
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Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
Business HQ still traces back to SD, in the US; cease and desist order. An overseas company would legally be able to make exact replicas of Seymour Duncan products, as long as they in no way market them as having anything to do with SD. One major problem though - SD (rightfully so) guards their trade secrets (pickup designs/detailed specs), because the actual pickup designs are not patented nor trademarked.
If you want double cream Duncans, you'll either have to make your own out of zebra pickups, stain white/parchment bobbins to cream, or track down double cream Duncans that used to come underneath a cover. No other way around it.
Business HQ still traces back to SD, in the US; cease and desist order. An overseas company would legally be able to make exact replicas of Seymour Duncan products, as long as they in no way market them as having anything to do with SD. One major problem though - SD (rightfully so) guards their trade secrets (pickup designs/detailed specs), because the actual pickup designs are not patented nor trademarked.
If you want double cream Duncans, you'll either have to make your own out of zebra pickups, stain white/parchment bobbins to cream, or track down double cream Duncans that used to come underneath a cover. No other way around it.
uOpt
Something Cool
Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
But you can't sell them in the U.S. which is the biggest market.
I wonder whether the secret trade agreements that neither us nor our parliament members are allowed to read before (or after) they are signed will at least harmonize and clarify things. Bwahahahahaha! I slay myself.
But you can't sell them in the U.S. which is the biggest market.
I wonder whether the secret trade agreements that neither us nor our parliament members are allowed to read before (or after) they are signed will at least harmonize and clarify things. Bwahahahahaha! I slay myself.
RockinRollur
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Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
That's weird because everyone else except you and 10 others think Dimarzio gets 2nd place market share their own good pickups and putting them into reputable brands like Ibanez.
That's weird because everyone else except you and 10 others think Dimarzio gets 2nd place market share their own good pickups and putting them into reputable brands like Ibanez.
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Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
^Seriously, don't start making this thread a personal pissing match. You don't have to agree with him, but do you really expect anything other than a fight from that post?
^Seriously, don't start making this thread a personal pissing match. You don't have to agree with him, but do you really expect anything other than a fight from that post?
Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
Someone else's inflammatory comments are not remedied by making further inflammatory comments yourself.
And you know you're wrong; you edited post #65 to cover your tracks.
Someone else's inflammatory comments are not remedied by making further inflammatory comments yourself.
And you know you're wrong; you edited post #65 to cover your tracks.
stevie_bees
Cat In The Hatministrator
Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
Settle down fellas before someone gets into trouble.
Settle down fellas before someone gets into trouble.
Johnny the Kid
Shaunofthedeadologist
Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
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regan
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Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
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Rand-O-Monium
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Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
Bah,I'll stick w/ Bobbin Toppers.
Perfect,prolly not.Better,sure.From 3 feet,who knows/cares anyway.
Un-wad teh panties 'bout it...
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Bah,I'll stick w/ Bobbin Toppers.
Perfect,prolly not.Better,sure.From 3 feet,who knows/cares anyway.
Un-wad teh panties 'bout it...
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Johnny the Kid
Shaunofthedeadologist
Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
It is worth pointing out that Gibson lost the PRS Lawsuit for trademark infringement. There's reason to believe that the same could happen to DMZ and the cream pickups.
It is worth pointing out that Gibson lost the PRS Lawsuit for trademark infringement. There's reason to believe that the same could happen to DMZ and the cream pickups.
uOpt
Something Cool
Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
Single cut. Similar thing to Fender later. You can trademark the headplate shape but not the body.
Interestingly enough there is a much better analogy around Gibson here. Gibson bullied Warmoth into stopping to offer single-cut (les paul style) bodies. AFTER body shape lawsuits have been lost by both Gibson and Fender. I haven't been part in that battle but I bet that they argued in the case of Warmoth it counts since for Warmoth the body alone is the entire product and now a body trademark can stick, or so Gibson lawyers claim. There was no lawsuit of course. Nobody can afford to clarify these things. Unless they are Fender or Gibson. Oops, at least Fender can indeed *not* afford random lawsuits, especially not those they lose (Suhr et al).
Single cut. Similar thing to Fender later. You can trademark the headplate shape but not the body.
Interestingly enough there is a much better analogy around Gibson here. Gibson bullied Warmoth into stopping to offer single-cut (les paul style) bodies. AFTER body shape lawsuits have been lost by both Gibson and Fender. I haven't been part in that battle but I bet that they argued in the case of Warmoth it counts since for Warmoth the body alone is the entire product and now a body trademark can stick, or so Gibson lawyers claim. There was no lawsuit of course. Nobody can afford to clarify these things. Unless they are Fender or Gibson. Oops, at least Fender can indeed *not* afford random lawsuits, especially not those they lose (Suhr et al).
YeRedHouseOverYonder
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Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
Just throwing other options out there: You can "age" the seymour duncan parchment color to a "fuller" cream shade by using Brown Kiwi leather polish (paste). It's not overly exaggerated like gibson p90 covers, but you get a nice comprise.
Comparison of a cream Seymour Duncan '78 vs "Aged" parchment
Like I said, not all there, but a decent compromise if you HAVE to have cream.
Just throwing other options out there: You can "age" the seymour duncan parchment color to a "fuller" cream shade by using Brown Kiwi leather polish (paste). It's not overly exaggerated like gibson p90 covers, but you get a nice comprise.
Comparison of a cream Seymour Duncan '78 vs "Aged" parchment
Like I said, not all there, but a decent compromise if you HAVE to have cream.
cvansickle
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Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
It's a crock for DiMarzio anyway. A few years back, I ordered a PAF neck and Super Distortion bridge for a Dave Murray project guitar I was putting together. I ordered both pickups dual cream. When they arrived, it was perfectly obvious that the two pickups were different colors.
It's a crock for DiMarzio anyway. A few years back, I ordered a PAF neck and Super Distortion bridge for a Dave Murray project guitar I was putting together. I ordered both pickups dual cream. When they arrived, it was perfectly obvious that the two pickups were different colors.
Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
Looks like another coat or two of the polish might get you there.
Looks like another coat or two of the polish might get you there.
YeRedHouseOverYonder
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Re: Why is Double Cream not available on customer orders?
^ Yeah, probably. I mostly did it for demonstration purposes. That was one coat on the cover. I'll see if I can post some pics in the future. I think I will be "aging" some parchment duncans that I have.
^ Yeah, probably. I mostly did it for demonstration purposes. That was one coat on the cover. I'll see if I can post some pics in the future. I think I will be "aging" some parchment duncans that I have.
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