Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

Miget Kotla

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I'm having the Fender Custom Shop build me a strat - and the first question on the list is choosing the Fender strat body (year/make, etc). From the 50's through 2013....tons of choices. What's interesting is the base price for each strat body is listed and for strats the 2013 model is the most expensive. Why is that? I would think one of the vintage guitar bodies would cost more today - even if just because of popularity.
Has Fender produced its best body-neck combo for a strat in the year 2013? Since this is a one time custom shot for me, I want to get the absolute best of everything on this strat..........starting with the body!
Thanks for any explanation you guys might have that explains why the 2013 base model is valued higher than all the others.

Have any of you guys used the Fender Custom Shop for this kind of work?
Thanks again!
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

Maybe because they tend to be 2 piece, almost book matched, whereas the earliest Strats could have been 3 or 4 piece with mismatched piece of wood
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

This years wood was bought at this years prices.
The wood for the custom shop probably doesn't vary much in quality, but the same wood was cheaper last year, & was respectibly dirt cheap in the 50s, compared to today.

BTW, since you're doing so well, i'll take the strat pups when you change em out for the zephyrs:D
You can write it off as a charitable contribution on you taxes
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

I thought the same thing when he asked about the zephyrs HSS set. If you don't mind what do you do for a living?

Play in a band...a little.
Teach band...a little more.
Haven't ever built a guitar before nor have I owned one not just off the rack at the music store.
I now have a chance to have custom built (one shot) the best one possible so honestly just trying to figure out what that might be made of.....from the pups to the bridge to the wood, everything.
I play lots of 70's classic rock and teach a variety of music but mostly the same. I'm always jamming and when not on the drums or keys I'm most comfortable playing rhythm guitar. Hoping a 7.25 radius strat with these seymour duncan pickups will be my one dream guitar. Thanks for any experience or knowledge you guys are willing to share. I've read through some other forums but this one (seymour duncan) seems to be one of the more intense and filled ones - lots of great info around here!

Thanks again...
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

You want a strat custom built, and you're going to FENDER??!

...in 2013? Seriously??!
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

You want a strat custom built, and you're going to FENDER??!

...in 2013? Seriously??!

Honestly, just trying to have the best custom strat built.
Are there 1 or 2 custom shops/luthiers known to be above all when it comes to the best work?
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

I call BS.

Not one mention of which guitar strap contributes the best tone!
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

I call BS.

Not one mention of which guitar strap contributes the best tone!

Well.....I know Fender pics are the best in category.
Straps....hm.......dig those cool 1970's brown leather ones we used to use!
Oh yeah....they got tone going!
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

Go to Suhr or something similar (I'm sure - pun intended - that others will chime in here too) but they do fantastic work with their s-style guitars.

yay - I've become ultimate!
 
Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

Why 7.25" radius? With that curve to the board you will have to run your action pretty high in order to avoid choking when you bend. I would go with. 9.5 radius which will feel very similar but will play better(IMHO).

As far as bodies it depends on what you are after. A vintage Strat was made from swamp ash and in the late 60's they started making them from alder it may have been earlier. Then you have to consider fingerboards rosewood or maple ? They will alter the tone greatly and most important is the finish. Go with nitro it will allow the guitar to breath more and the lacquer will move as the wood under it does. Avoid a poly water base finish. Pure nitro would be the way I would do it. What pickups are putting in? Are you going for a modern sound or vintage?
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

I say possibly save yourself 10 grand or so and try an ESP Vintage Plus, if you've got a store with proper real ESP products around (not LTD, total 180degree opposites is what they are). Guitar Center seems to be finally caving and stocking them a lot more this year, at least here in SoCal.

In case you're going "but doesn't ESP built METAL guitars, whaaat?" - nope, ESP builds lush expensive stuff for any market niche where there's money to be made. They jumped on the dark trans finishes + actives route because they were the first to figure out that's what kids were fapping to, but they've got plenty of other stuff.

Anyways - the Vintage Plus easily annihilates any other classical strat-type guitar I've ever seen. Including the recent new offerings from PRS (which I'd otherwise say were worth a look - but, head to head, they flopped, hard). Dunno about Suhr, great reputation it seems, but I've never held one personally.

Jumping on a Fender CS just makes so little sense - it's neither the same factory and employees, nor even the same company owning the brand these days. Their connection to the history of Leo's inventions are minimal.

Quality-wise, American-built Fenders are pretty good, but nothing stunning. CS pups are readily available at 70 bucks a pop to aftermarket consumers. Other electronics? TBX costs like 15 or 20 bucks, otherwise nothing new here. Wood choice? Strats don't use anything particularly lush anyways, and aren't supposed to sustain halfway into tomorrow. Hardware is Japanese Gotoh all around anyway, so nothing new there either. Why pay an extra DIGIT of price for birdseye (purpose: just looks) with literally a good fraction of an inch or more of transparent plastic poured over it, on your still-uncomfortable neck and nothing much more? Cuz it won't have uneven frets and stuff, and won't be hiding poplar inside under superthick paint?

...not much of an achievement, that. Proper Japanese manufacturers have better QC anyway. Same or better hardware (very often made by the same Gotoh). Unlike Fender CS, ESP's (standard) Vintage Plus pickups are some crazy innovative stuff, and you can cusom-order one for a couple grand extra (the Standard's price range is about equivalent to AmStd, although it annihilates anything ever made under the name Fender Deluxe or their artist signatures). All Fender's custom shop really offers is a choice of which of their standard stuff from the past you'd like and better QC on craftsmanship, something ESP standards don't ever seem to have had problems with at all.

And for dessert, they've got some of the best neck profiles ever. Ironically, their licensed import LTD brand seems to make a point of *never* using even a remotely-ESP-shaped neck profile, probably to reserve that OMFG ME WANT! NOW!! reaction for their top-tier domestic product - and it works. Meanwhile Fender sells some of the WORST neck profiles ever for ridiculous prices "because they're vintage-correct". All Fender CS is doing is trying to *compete* with its own vintage gear market, while the top-tier Japanese brands like ESP, Caparison, etc. are trying to outinnovate, outcraft, and annihilate the competition.

...and that's something Japan has had a very consistent history of doing to just about every other American industry already. Fender's too stuck in the past, and that's never a good sign.
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

This years wood was bought at this years prices.
The wood for the custom shop probably doesn't vary much in quality, but the same wood was cheaper last year, & was respectibly dirt cheap in the 50s, compared to today.

...I just can't decide if you're for real on this or making a joke.... You do know they're not using 1950s wood to make the 1950s style body, right?
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

I'm having the Fender Custom Shop build me a strat - and the first question on the list is choosing the Fender strat body (year/make, etc). From the 50's through 2013....tons of choices. What's interesting is the base price for each strat body is listed and for strats the 2013 model is the most expensive. Why is that? I would think one of the vintage guitar bodies would cost more today - even if just because of popularity.
Has Fender produced its best body-neck combo for a strat in the year 2013? Since this is a one time custom shot for me, I want to get the absolute best of everything on this strat..........starting with the body!
Thanks for any explanation you guys might have that explains why the 2013 base model is valued higher than all the others.

Have any of you guys used the Fender Custom Shop for this kind of work?
Thanks again!

WTF thread.

You have the Fender custom shop give you an offer for them to make you a 2013 Am Strat body?
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

All im going to say is you don't have to spend an arm an a leg an a left nut to get the best quality. As for custom shops their are a couple that do great work and will do what ever you desire for the right price but the best advice I would give you is if you want to play this guitar for the rest of your life time make sure you know about all the parts your asking for. Like a 7.25 radius? Have you ever played on a board like that if you have and thats what you like go head if not and you really need to try one out first. I know the feeling of wanting the best when building a custom guitar and once I built mine their were certain things I wish I would have done different. Not that my custom guitar is a bad guitar it plays like butter but their are certain features I would change. I would say maybe look at the Shur CS, Jackson CS, and Warmoth. Warmoth is a parts site but is a lot cheaper to buy to parts then have someone put them together.
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

Why 7.25" radius? With that curve to the board you will have to run your action pretty high in order to avoid choking when you bend. I would go with. 9.5 radius which will feel very similar but will play better(IMHO).

As far as bodies it depends on what you are after. A vintage Strat was made from swamp ash and in the late 60's they started making them from alder it may have been earlier. Then you have to consider fingerboards rosewood or maple ? They will alter the tone greatly and most important is the finish. Go with nitro it will allow the guitar to breath more and the lacquer will move as the wood under it does. Avoid a poly water base finish. Pure nitro would be the way I would do it. What pickups are putting in? Are you going for a modern sound or vintage?

All good points. Allow me to further elaborate on a few historical points. Swamp ash was used from 54 to 57, when alder began to be used mostly. Then in the 70's they began to use hard heavy ash mostly. The 80's reformations brought back alder as the staple.

The early rosewood finger board necks used from 59 to 62 are fairly thick slabs of rosewood. The 63 up to the 80s RW boards are thin and don't change the sound that much. The slab board was brought back with the vintage re-issues. When maple finger boards were brought back in 68 the RW vener was replaced by a maple vener so they were not one pice but maple with a glued on maple finger board. I think the one piece necks sound a little more clear.
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

I'll look into ESP thanks. And seems like Suhr has earned some great rep.
I play lots of rhythm and do not play lead so looking for very low action and hoping for narrow/thin neck also.
Will the 7.25 radius serve that need?
Thanks again!
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

7.25 is super round. You can definitely strum cowboy chords way down the neck at that but there's a reason most people have gone 9.5 or flatter...
 
Re: Why is the 2013 Fender Strat body the most expensive?

I'll look into ESP thanks. And seems like Suhr has earned some great rep.
I play lots of rhythm and do not play lead so looking for very low action and hoping for narrow/thin neck also.
Will the 7.25 radius serve that need?
Thanks again!

If you don't plan on playing above the 12th fret and don't do a lot of bending then you might like it. But like Empty said 9.5 is a happy medium for most.
 
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