Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
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Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
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Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
Are you intentionally ignoring the other aspects like accounting, packaging, labeling, etc.?
Are you intentionally ignoring the other aspects like accounting, packaging, labeling, etc.?
Cdwillis
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Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
Even considering all the little things like labels, extra wire, packaging, labor, etc that goes into adding a four conductor output on a normally shielded one conductor wire, $26 uncharge is completely absurd. $5 seems much more reasonable, or even $10 wouldn't be outrageous to me, but $26? Come on.
Even considering all the little things like labels, extra wire, packaging, labor, etc that goes into adding a four conductor output on a normally shielded one conductor wire, $26 uncharge is completely absurd. $5 seems much more reasonable, or even $10 wouldn't be outrageous to me, but $26? Come on.
Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
Look, I know nothing about their production, but I’d think it goes something like this: somebody takes and writes up the special order. This gets sent to production. Production is disrupted to create this variant. 4 conductor wire is fetched, prepared, and installed. It sits in a holding area to get special labeling and packaging. The label is created, printed and applied. The modified packaging is prepared and pickup installed. Pickup is held in an area to get sent to the appropriate party/dealer. Meanwhile, accounting makes entries as needed to keep everything in order.
Look, I know nothing about their production, but I’d think it goes something like this: somebody takes and writes up the special order. This gets sent to production. Production is disrupted to create this variant. 4 conductor wire is fetched, prepared, and installed. It sits in a holding area to get special labeling and packaging. The label is created, printed and applied. The modified packaging is prepared and pickup installed. Pickup is held in an area to get sent to the appropriate party/dealer. Meanwhile, accounting makes entries as needed to keep everything in order.
Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
I agree it seems a bit pricey. It wasn’t that much when I did it. But at the same time, all that “small” stuff adds up.
Even considering all the little things like labels, extra wire, packaging, labor, etc that goes into adding a four conductor output on a normally shielded one conductor wire, $26 uncharge is completely absurd. $5 seems much more reasonable, or even $10 wouldn't be outrageous to me, but $26? Come on.
I agree it seems a bit pricey. It wasn’t that much when I did it. But at the same time, all that “small” stuff adds up.
Big Mike Blues
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Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
Good grief
Just don’t buy one then and move on with your life
Good grief
Just don’t buy one then and move on with your life
Big Mike Blues
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Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
This
It ain’t the norm and disrupts the assembly line
It’s likely a loss of productivity factor
But I’ll let all the micro managing know it alls hand wringing get on with their *****ing
This
It ain’t the norm and disrupts the assembly line
It’s likely a loss of productivity factor
But I’ll let all the micro managing know it alls hand wringing get on with their *****ing
JB_From_Hell
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Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
Here’s where it gets crazy:
A ‘59 trembucker, which is 4 conductor, is $79. So is a standard spaced ‘59 with any alternate colored bobbins. Now the weird one: a ‘59 with a slanted baseplate to fit that one particular Gibson and Epiphone is also $79. You’d think that would be the one that got the up charge.
Here’s where it gets crazy:
A ‘59 trembucker, which is 4 conductor, is $79. So is a standard spaced ‘59 with any alternate colored bobbins. Now the weird one: a ‘59 with a slanted baseplate to fit that one particular Gibson and Epiphone is also $79. You’d think that would be the one that got the up charge.
Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
And does it "disrupt the assembly line" to make a Jazz pickup?!
And does it "disrupt the assembly line" to make a Jazz pickup?!
Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
Are you ignoring the other aspects of accounting, packaging, lageling, etc with the Jazz pup (or the APH2, or the Custom, or the Pearly Gates, or any other 4 conductor pup) as compared with the '59.
Why can't the '59 with 4 conductor wires be treated like a different pup from the vintage '59...like the Custom, the Custom 5, the Custom Custom...instead of a modification with an upcharge?
Are you ignoring the other aspects of accounting, packaging, lageling, etc with the Jazz pup (or the APH2, or the Custom, or the Pearly Gates, or any other 4 conductor pup) as compared with the '59.
Why can't the '59 with 4 conductor wires be treated like a different pup from the vintage '59...like the Custom, the Custom 5, the Custom Custom...instead of a modification with an upcharge?
Big Mike Blues
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Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
Well why don’t you armchair quarterbacks buy the company and make the changes or just vote with your wallets and drop the whining
If you don’t work in that company you don’t know what it takes. Period.
Well why don’t you armchair quarterbacks buy the company and make the changes or just vote with your wallets and drop the whining
If you don’t work in that company you don’t know what it takes. Period.
Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
A good suggestion would be to make the 59 a 4-conductor pickup by default. If that is something you might want, mention it here.
The '59 was SD's vintage PAF type, so I understand why stock it comes with long legs and 2 conductor wiring. However, the Seth Lover and Antiquity were not out yet, and those pickups seem to do the vintage PAF thing to a more accurate degree. Keeping the 59 as a vintage PAF alternative isn't as imperative as it may have been at one time.
A good suggestion would be to make the 59 a 4-conductor pickup by default. If that is something you might want, mention it here.
The '59 was SD's vintage PAF type, so I understand why stock it comes with long legs and 2 conductor wiring. However, the Seth Lover and Antiquity were not out yet, and those pickups seem to do the vintage PAF thing to a more accurate degree. Keeping the 59 as a vintage PAF alternative isn't as imperative as it may have been at one time.
Jacew
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Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
Who cares how much it "costs to make."
It's just about supply and demand. You don't have to pay it, can diy it if you want. Or not have that pickup.
Also you can change strings instead of paying 20$ for someone else to do it.
At least they do have the option, if SD didn't want to do it they wouldn't have to. Getting extra for different leads can be the way to make it worthwhile to offer. If the extra is too much, people wouldn't buy it and that's one legitimate way of controlling business too.
Who cares how much it "costs to make."
It's just about supply and demand. You don't have to pay it, can diy it if you want. Or not have that pickup.
Also you can change strings instead of paying 20$ for someone else to do it.
At least they do have the option, if SD didn't want to do it they wouldn't have to. Getting extra for different leads can be the way to make it worthwhile to offer. If the extra is too much, people wouldn't buy it and that's one legitimate way of controlling business too.
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Why is the 4 conductor 59 neck so expensive?
You’re right, my bad
damn that pic looks horrible. You'll need glassesbut still... it's 95 over 79.
You’re right, my bad
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