Why is the bridge intonating like this?

Snoogles

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every other guitar i've ever seen the bridges look like:

e.|
B..|
G...|
D.|
A..|
E...|

why does mine look like

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Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

hmmm... :33:

I've never seen that before. If it sounds good then I guess it works.
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

Is their a shim in the neck or in the floyd? Is the neck adjusted so that its flat and not bowing either way? Is the bridge parallel to the body?
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

the D string looks a little far back, everything else looks about right

just saw this in another post, so I wouldn't be too worried, as long as the intonation is right.
 

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Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

If the guitar sounds intonated (and a tuner shows this) then I wouldn't be worried.
 
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Note that the OP's picture is a left handed guitar. It threw me off for a minute.
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

Note that the OP's picture is a left handed guitar. It threw me off for a minute.

actually the picture is flopped. its really a right-handed guitar

Is their a shim in the neck or in the floyd? Is the neck adjusted so that its flat and not bowing either way? Is the bridge parallel to the body?

its got about .5mm relief, no shim in neck. bridge is level with the body. the D and G strings have 1 or 2 shims underneath the saddles to keep a correct arc

the tuner shows its intonated. i guess its ok then?
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

My strat intonates like this:

e..|
B...|
G.|
D..|
A...|
E....|

Not sure why, but it's all intonated well and in tune, so whatever.
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

Have you checked the intonation with a tuner?

If so, what is correct?

If so then don't worry about what it looks like.

If you have not checked it then check it...if you do check and it's correct then just play it, if it is not correct then set the intonation.
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

its probably got something to do with your finger pressure affecting the intonation.
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

As long as its intonated who cares...that's why they have such a large adjustable range. Also, did you have brand new strings on when you did it? If not that could be an explanation...
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

Have you checked the intonation with a tuner?

If so, what is correct?

If so then don't worry about what it looks like.

If you have not checked it then check it...if you do check and it's correct then just play it, if it is not correct then set the intonation.

intonated with a tuner. open string, fretted 12th method.

did you have brand new strings on when you did it?

yep

i guess it is what it is

maybe those shims under the D and G saddles have something to do with it. i kind of doubt its my finger pressure at the 12th fret
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

Floyds have the bridge radius built into the saddle heights, and you shouldn't really need to shim the saddles to get the correct radius. But if you did, that might explain the shape you're seeing.
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

A couple of things:

What are the specific strings you have on there, brand and each 6 gauges? The wound strings can behave quite different depending on what core they have and how they are wound.

I would also check intonation on fret 7 and fret 17. Don't do it on 1, it'll be too depressing.

As mentioned various Floyisms through things off. The nut is by definition not well cut and the bridge probably doesn't match the fretboard radius.
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

The open and 12th fret method is OK, but leaves room for error.

Put brand new strings on it. Never intonate with old strings.

Check if the tuner is reading dead center when you fret every note from the 10th fret to the 17th fret. You notice more intonation drift when you check a bunch of frets, not just the 12th.
 
Re: Why is the bridge intonating like this?

Floyds have the bridge radius built into the saddle heights, and you shouldn't really need to shim the saddles to get the correct radius. But if you did, that might explain the shape you're seeing.

This. Your string radius isn't following the board radius at either the bridge, the nut, or both. Everything about that picture tells me the board radius is flatter than the bridge. Significantly. Try pulling those shims, setting your action again, and then intonating.
 
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