Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

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juice

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Hi! I currently have an Ibanez SZ520 with seymour duncans that is currently down and out due to pickup wiring issues. It's a long story (it's my friend's guitar, which was mauled by a couple of 8 year olds with screwdrivers... another guy tried to fix it but didn't know how), but basically, I don't know a thing about a guitar's wiring...I just play them:lame: So I came here for some help! I need to put the wires back where they need to be, but I'm not sure where they go.

If somebody could help me get this thing up and running again, it'd be much appreciated!

Here's a picture of wire #1View attachment 17765
All these wires go places, and are attached. Black and bare are together, as are white and red...(though I'm not automatically assuming they're all correct, since the guy who tried to fix it may have messed with them...)

Here's a picture of wire #2 View attachment 17766

This is where I'm confused (doesn't take much...:banghead:)
This time, the black wire is attached where the last picture had a green one...and none of the other wires are attached to anything!

I've got the tools to fix it...just need to know how. Thanks!
If any other pictures are needed, just let me know!
 
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Re: Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

What issues are you having?

No sound?
No tone?
One pickup works but not the other?
Not switching?
 
Re: Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

jcthejester13 said:
What issues are you having?

No sound?
No tone?
One pickup works but not the other?
Not switching?
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The pickups and everything work fine...they just aren't all wired up. That's really all I need to know--where the wires need to be attached to.
 
Re: Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

Check out the Wirirng Diagrams under Support
on the main. Good luck.

Peace,

Darrin
 
Re: Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

here is the original wiring
just need the SD translation to color code and your off

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Re: Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

the originals neck is
red
white
black
green
ground

SD wiring is
black
red
white
green
Ground

greens and ground are the same

so leave them on ground
 
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ehdwuld said:
the originals neck is
red
white
black
green
ground

SD wiring is
black
red
white
green
Ground

greens and ground are the same

so leave them on ground
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Yeah, ok! Thanks! So that green wire in the first pic definitely shouldn't be where it is...it needs to be grounded on the back of the pot, correct? Cause right now, the black wire is grounded lol. That must have been the other guy :smash:
 
Re: Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

I hate ibanez wiring. It's ****ing retarded. I opened up some of my ibanezes and found that some of the wires *just barely* reached their destination. they were pretty short.
 
Re: Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

astrozombie said:
I hate ibanez wiring. It's ****ing retarded. I opened up some of my ibanezes and found that some of the wires *just barely* reached their destination. they were pretty short.
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Yeah, I've noticed some of the wires are kinda short. Haha could be worse though!
 
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Ok, so here's the deal...I took the diagram image that ehdwuld provided (thanks!) and relabeled the wires according to my guitar. Then I noticed something odd that doesn't fit--

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/schematics.php?schematic=color_codes

On that page, it says to connect the red and white wires together, but according to the diagram, the red and white (N- and S+) are separated for the neck pickup. Any ideas as to which is right?
 
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juice said:
Ok, so here's the deal...I took the diagram image that ehdwuld provided (thanks!) and relabeled the wires according to my guitar. Then I noticed something odd that doesn't fit--

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/schematics.php?schematic=color_codes

On that page, it says to connect the red and white wires together, but according to the diagram, the red and white (N- and S+) are separated for the neck pickup. Any ideas as to which is right?
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the diagram I provided was with the Ibanez pickups


and in the diagram they have reversed the wiring to give an inside coil split
to both pickups

in this case

the duncan color code should do that out of the box

connect the red/white on the Duncan neck pickup

black to hot

green to ground

see here on this diagram
the slug coils being the inside on most Duncan Pickups
coil_splitting.jpg

unless you have flipped one round you're ok

its just the Ibanez pickups dont default to the inside like duncans

Good Catch
I goofed
 
Re: Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

Thanks! I was wondering why both pickups didn't have the same wiring...makes sense now lol. I've got it all soldered up, and volume is coming out now, but when I turn the tone knob a crazy hum noise starts growing louder...haha just one thing after another!
 
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juice said:
Thanks! I was wondering why both pickups didn't have the same wiring...makes sense now lol. I've got it all soldered up, and volume is coming out now, but when I turn the tone knob a crazy hum noise starts growing louder...haha just one thing after another!
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is it humming in the middle position or in the neck or bridge?

may have a ground loose

may need to reverse one of those pickup leads to get hum canceling
 
Re: Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

ehdwuld said:
is it humming in the middle position or in the neck or bridge?

may have a ground loose

may need to reverse one of those pickup leads to get hum canceling
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Neck and bridge, but only when my tone knob gets cranked up. The middle position is fine. I'm gonna try to do some more re-soldering today on the old soldering jobs to see if it helps!
 
Re: Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

like they did

match your pickup colors again to the diagram

except this time

make the white hot

tie the black and green together

and the red to ground with the bare
 
Re: Wires, wires everywhere...Help??

ehdwuld said:
like they did

match your pickup colors again to the diagram

except this time

make the white hot

tie the black and green together

and the red to ground with the bare
Click to expand...

Still makes the humming noise...something simply isn't grounded :banghead:

I've checked all the soldering connections and they're fine though. Maybe it's got something to do with the pickups themselves? Would a bad capacitor be likely? Any other ideas?
 
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