Wiring help: H-S-H Fender, 2 Volume, splitting

[Dru Edwards]

Hey. I'm assembling my new pickguard for my parts-o-caster project and I've looked at lots of wiring diagrams but nothing that seems to fit this exactly. I'd rather not guess. Here's what I'm looking at:

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  H-S-H (CC - Texas Special - PG)
  Standard Fender 5 way selector switch
  2 volume (both push/pull, one for coil splitting the neck and the other the bridge)
  1 master tone

I'd like to be able to blend the bridge+neck in some position, perhaps position 2 or 4. I don't care which volume pot the mid is wired to.

Any help is much appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring help: H-S-H Fender, 2 Volume, splitting

I'll take a shot at this as soon as I get home.

(Assuming I don't get caught up playing my new Tweak Fuzz.)

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring help: H-S-H Fender, 2 Volume, splitting

Dru, there's no good way to get neck and bridge with a standard 5-way, especially if you use both push-pulls the way you describe. However, if you can be flexible in how you use those push-pulls, I believe you can do even better.

I drew this up quik-'n-dirty, but you can get the gist of this. One push-pull splits both pups. The other overrides the 5-way to go direct to both humbuckers. The "split" switch will still work too, so you can have both full-humbuckers on, or both split.

Edit: The blue side of the push-pull is the side closest to the pot.

Edit 2: The middle pup will share the neck volume pot. In the middle/bridge position, the middle will have its own volume pot.

 

[Dru Edwards]

Re: Wiring help: H-S-H Fender, 2 Volume, splitting

Thanks Artie - I knew when I posted this you'd come through. Just a couple of things which are probably obvious:

1) Is the contents of the blue box the 5 way switch with the usual wiring?
2) The pickup at the top of the diagram is the neck?
3) The wires on the far left of the diagram are the ground wires?

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring help: H-S-H Fender, 2 Volume, splitting

Thanks Artie - I knew when I posted this you'd come through. Just a couple of things which are probably obvious:

1) Is the contents of the blue box the 5 way switch with the usual wiring?

Not quite "usual" since you're using dual-volumes. Since you're interested, I'll draw up the translation to the type of 5-way diagram you're used to. (Gimme a sec . . . or two.)

2) The pickup at the top of the diagram is the neck?
3) The wires on the far left of the diagram are the ground wires?

Yes, and yes.

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring help: H-S-H Fender, 2 Volume, splitting

Like this:

Where it says "out to xxx vol", is the right side of the blue box in my first diagram. It would actually go to bottom two lugs of the push-pull pot switch if you take that option.

 

[Dru Edwards]

Re: Wiring help: H-S-H Fender, 2 Volume, splitting

Thanks Artie. I'm putting all the components on the pickguard now and should get to the soldering next week-end (I forgot to buy wiring).

 

[Dru Edwards]

Re: Wiring help: H-S-H Fender, 2 Volume, splitting

Hi Artie. The pickguard is loaded and I've hand drawn the combined schematics above. I understand everything except the right part of the diagram so ...

1) Are the schematics on the far right of the 1st diagram the tone pot? I'm not sure how it gets wired. The tone pot's first lug to the capacitor to the ground (on the tone pot itself) and then the middle lug to the volume?

2) I guess this could be related to # 1 above ... where do the 2 middle 'lugs' on the volume push-push go? To the tone pot or to ground?

3) Are any of the 3 lugs on the 2 volume pots used at all? I'm talking about the lugs on the pot itself and not the series of 6 on the push-push part.

Thanks!

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring help: H-S-H Fender, 2 Volume, splitting

Hey Dru; Just heading out to a Dr's appointment. As soon as I get back, I'll post a better diagram that should answer all those questions.

Back soon . . .

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring help: H-S-H Fender, 2 Volume, splitting

Ok . . . in schematic form, a potentiometer translates like this:

So your diagram becomes this:

Now, note the line that goes from the middle lugs of the volume pots, to the two "upper" lugs of the tone pot, and on to the "tip" lug of the output jack. All of those points are shorted together, so it doesn't matter what actual order you do it in. The diagram is done the way it is for "neatness".

So, you might connect those points like this, in order to make good use of the available lugs, or solder points:

Use whatever order is convenient for you, and don't forget that as you place the pots into the guitar, they might get rotated around. Don't let that fool you. The "input" to the volume pot will always be the most "clockwise" lug and ground will always be the most "counter-clockwise" lug - when viewed from the back.

Hope this helps.
Artie

 

[Dru Edwards]

Re: Wiring help: H-S-H Fender, 2 Volume, splitting

Artie - excellent! I really appreciate this. Since I'm on the road for work I won't get to this until the week-end but I can't wait to wire this up.

Thanks again!