Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

[gregory]

Re: Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

1) bridge (coils in series)
2) bridge (coils in parallel)
3) bridge (coils series) + neck (coils series), [bridge + neck pups in parallel]
4) neck (coils in parallel)
5) neck (coils in series)

He might need an additional switch(?).

EDIT: after waffling at least 3 times, I see that it is doable and I am happy to provide a pinout for the 5WSS.

 

[jmcorey]

Re: Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

He might need an additional switch(?).

EDIT: after waffling at least 3 times, I see that it is doable and I am happy to provide a pinout for the 5WSS.

For Guitar Doc's, or for your previous suggestion?


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[gregory]

Re: Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

For GuitarDoc's suggestion...

 

[gregory]

Re: Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

It looks like the Godin HDR could possibly help the parallel combination of inner coils and a thinned-out neck pickup come to life. The only thing that concerns me about the HDR is that a (partially) shunted humbucker or the parallel combination of humbucker coils definitely won't benefit from the HDR's added brightness. However, I believe this could be addressed with a carefully chosen RC load.

I'd still favor either inner coils or the bridge in series combined with the neck in parallel over running bridge by itself in parallel. The two series humbuckers in parallel is definitely a keeper. That makes six combinations, so I'd still have to eliminate an option in order to bring the count down to five. Without the HDR it would be a no-brainer.

Of course I am not you.

Anyway, I'm happy to offer more drawings if you're interested.

 

[jmcorey]

Re: Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

If you think that the two inner coils with the magnet flipped is OK, I can do that. Then what about

1) bridge (coils in series)
2) bridge (coils series) + neck (coils parallel)
3) bridge (coils series) + neck (coils series), [bridge + neck pups in parallel]
4) inner coils [with magnet flipped]
5) neck (coils in series)

This is close to what I wanted to do originally. Do you think this is doable with a super switch?

Thanks,

Joe

 

[gregory]

Re: Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

1) bridge (coils in series)
2) bridge (coils series) in parallel with neck (coils parallel)
3) bridge (coils series) in parallel with neck (coils series)
4) inner coils
5) neck (coils in series)

Flip one magnet. I would recommend the neck since I switched the wires in the diagram, though which pickup gets the flipped magnet does not matter.



The RC is a resistor in series with a capacitor to ground. 22k and 1nF should get you in the ballpark. I recommend using a pot and varying cap values. You might go lower than 1nF: perhaps 680pF, maybe lower. I doubt you'll want to go any higher than 2.2nF.


It's possible to do just the bridge in parallel instead of what is currently in 2, if you would prefer that.

 

[jmcorey]

Re: Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

Flip one magnet. I would recommend the neck since I switched the wires in the diagram, though which pickup gets the flipped magnet does not matter.

Excellent, thank you!

For my own education, you changed the wire colors because the magnet gets flipped?

So green becomes black, white becomes red and vice versa?

 

[gregory]

Re: Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

For my own education, you changed the wire colors because the magnet gets flipped?

So green becomes black, white becomes red and vice versa?

Exactly! Flipping one magnet will reverse the phase relationship between the two pickups, so reversing the wires will reverse the reversal. It doesn't matter which pickup you modify so long as you flip one magnet and reverse the wires on one pickup; you could flip the magnet on one and reverse the wires on the other if you wanted.

 

[jmcorey]

Re: Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

Here is the diagram I have used. I'm sorry if the drawing is too rough and looks like a schematic. Please ask if something is not clear.

Another variation I have used (not shown) is to add a push-pull tone pot to split the neck humbucker.
Switch push-down connects the Black wire to lugs for positions 3 and 5 (This is the same as in the diagram).
Switch pull-up connects both Red and White wires to lugs for positions 3 and 5. Then the neck humbucker is coil split (screw pole active) in positions 3, 4, 5. The coil split creates a brighter tone for these positions.

Thanks for this, Teleplayer.

 

[jmcorey]

Re: Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

1) bridge (coils in series)
2) bridge (coils series) in parallel with neck (coils parallel)
3) bridge (coils series) in parallel with neck (coils series)
4) inner coils
5) neck (coils in series)

Flip one magnet. I would recommend the neck since I switched the wires in the diagram, though which pickup gets the flipped magnet does not matter.

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The RC is a resistor in series with a capacitor to ground. 22k and 1nF should get you in the ballpark. I recommend using a pot and varying cap values. You might go lower than 1nF: perhaps 680pF, maybe lower. I doubt you'll want to go any higher than 2.2nF.


It's possible to do just the bridge in parallel instead of what is currently in 2, if you would prefer that.

I may take you up on the bridge in parallel, at some point.

What do the resistor-capacitor combo actually do? Filter some of the highs?

 

[gregory]

Re: Wiring help needed for 2HB guitar with 5-way super switch (calling gregory!)

Shelve highs that would make the combination of inner coils brittle, yes; though I would optimize it for the HDR.