Wiring help needed

[Sid Vicious]

Hey guys I need to flat out rewire my strat. I thought I had it right but it was out of phase and the switch didn't work right. I can't remember what schematic I was using.

Here's what we're working with. A strat with a 5 way, 1 vol, 1 tone, patb in the bridge, duck 4 wire in the mid and a svr 2 wire in the neck. I've looked at lots of other threads for wiring and it's confusing. Its just the duck wiring that just throws me off for some reason.

Anyways the patb wiring is red+white soldered and heatshrunk already, I can change that if needed.

Can someone please help with a schematic?

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring help needed

If you want to do a straight Strat, with no splitting, then just follow this diagram: 1hum_2sing_1vol_1tone_5way

The neck should be self-explanatory. On the Duck, solder bare, green, and white all together, and treat them like one ground wire. Solder black and red together, and treat them as a single "hot" wire, which goes to the 5-way.

Bridge is just as you have it: green and bare to ground, red and white soldered together and taped off. Black to the switch.


If you want add a little "extra", do a simple auto-split, with this diagram: 1h_2s_1v_1t_5w_as

Do the same thing as above, but add that extra connection of the bridge red/white to the 5-way. (Along with that short jumper over to ground.)

Make sense?

 

[Sid Vicious]

Re: Wiring help needed

That was the conclusion I was coming too but wasn't sure. Could you explain the auto-split? Also on that neck, white switch, red+bare ground, correct?

Oh and thank you Artie

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring help needed

Auto-split just means that when you have the 5-way in the middle/bridge position, you'll only be getting one coil of the bridge pup. Its supposed to be closer to the traditional Strat "notch tone" than having the full bridge humbucker active.

I believe you're right on the svr, but its been a long time since I had one. The worst that will happen is that it'll be out-of-phase, and you'll just have to swap white and red.

P.S. If you have a meter, there's a simple test you can perform to make sure about polarity before you install everything.

 

[Sid Vicious]

Re: Wiring help needed

How do you believe that patb will act with the duck split like that? Sound wise.

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring help needed

I'm guessing that it should be fine. I just recently got my first PATB pup, and I haven't installed it yet. Hopefully, others will chime in on this.

You can always wire it up in the auto-split mode. If you don't care for it, you only need cut that black jumper wire to ground to defeat the auto-split function.

 

[Sid Vicious]

Re: Wiring help needed

I get no change from bridge to bridge-mid. Also the mid and neck pu's have a lot less volume. basically I wired it

neck white and bare to ground red to switch
mid black/red to switch and green/wht/bare to ground
bridge black to switch and //hears a needle scratching across a vinyl record// hold the phone buckwheat.... I forgot to move the 2 soldered taped wires to the switch:banghead:

Well I'm not going to rewire it tonight... Let you know tomorrow. At least I can say its not out of phase anymore

 

[mrturtle_91]

Re: Wiring help needed

I get no change from bridge to bridge-mid. Also the mid and neck pu's have a lot less volume. basically I wired it

neck white and bare to ground red to switch
mid black/red to switch and green/wht/bare to ground
bridge black to switch and //hears a needle scratching across a vinyl record// hold the phone buckwheat.... I forgot to move the 2 soldered taped wires to the switch:banghead:

Well I'm not going to rewire it tonight... Let you know tomorrow. At least I can say its not out of phase anymore

wiring troubles are so frustrating, aren't they? don't worry man, once you get it you'll be a lot happier.

 

[Sid Vicious]

Re: Wiring help needed

For some reason the duck is live in all positions :banghead: I can isolate all the other pu's by tapping on them but the duck mic's in all 5 positions

I'll try again later tonight.

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring help needed

Look closely at the 5-way switch. Some have the "common" terminal on on end, and others its on the other end. You may have the Duck connected to a common rather than a switched terminal. (Although, not likely, since I assume the Duck is in the middle position.)

 

[Sid Vicious]

Re: Wiring help needed

I think I was wrong. The switch and wiring looks right. That auto split is to split the humbucker right? I see no way for that to split with the duck with the way it is wired. So if it splits the patb will I hear a difference when switching from bridge to the next position on the switch?

Update Artie, it was the switch. One of the wipers that was supposed to be open was just barely touching the hot for the patb. I put a megaswitch I had laying around. All the pickup sound full but it has some strange static sound. It did it with the other switch as well. Its not really that bad but you can hear it.