Wiring Suggestions

[fatboywhitney]

I have searched high and low and cannot find a wiring diagram for my current desire. I have a Schecter C-1 Plus with Vol,Vol,Tone w/push-pull for coil split and 3 way selecter. I would like to go Master Vol, Blend, Tone w/pp and 3 way. It's a matter of changing out the middle Vol for a Blend pot. I can locate the parts and have the tools. The pickups are four wire conductors. I will be replacing the Duncan Design pups with SL's or Pg's (maybe A2Pros). Can anyone help? ---This resource is an amazing discovery.

 

[jeremy]

Re: Wiring Suggestions

i dont have any schematics like that but if you get seth lovers make sure you get them with 4 cond. wiring otherwise you wont be able to split them.
by blend you mean blend the two pups togeather? might not work well with the switch

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring Suggestions

Hey fatboy; :laugh2: Welcome to the forum.

I believe this is the diagram you're looking for. Just reverse the tone and blend pot if you want the middle one to be blend.

Lindy Fralin Blend Pot

 

[fatboywhitney]

Re: Wiring Suggestions

Thanks for the fast responses. I think I'll study the diagram, get a little more educated on some basic electronics and go for it. I actually installed the push/pull tone w/ capacitor myself so I should have no trouble. Just need to get the right wires in the proper place. Thanks again for the advice and knowedge.

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring Suggestions

A blend pot is just a way of substituting a variable resistance, for an on/off switch. So, instead of a pup being either on, or off, you can "dial-in" the amount of it you want. You just use either end, and the wiper of a pot, like this:

The top diagram shows the pot all the way "on".
The middle shows halfway, and the bottom shows all the way "off", or maximum resistance.

You can connect A and B anyplace you want to "blend" two points together.

 

[fatboywhitney]

Re: Wiring Suggestions

Thanks ArtieToo, your diagrams are above and beyond. It's so awesome to have a resource like this forum to find real answer from hands on people like myself. I will experiment a little. I don't think I'll hurt anything. Solder comes apart just like it goes together. I'll let you guys know how it goes next week or so. I've been so busy practicing I'm finding it hard to put the guitar down for and hour or so to do this.

 

[Artie]

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Perhaps I'm compensating for the fact, that as a child, I never got that really, really big box 'o Crayons! :laugh2:

 

[fatboywhitney]

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well I got my blend pot in successfully. A few wrong turns but it all works correctly. Problem is- I'm not sure I like it. I had Vol., Vol., Tone w/ pushpull coil split and 3 way selector. Now I have Master Vol., Blend, Tone and 3 Way. Here's the catch that I did not anticipate: Say I have the Vol at 10, the blend just backed of of the neck pup a little so the bridge is kicking in some and, obviously the 3way in the middle. If I slap the 3 way to bridge to cut the neck, my volume doesn't compensate the output to keep it at 10. Whereas before If I had the bridge vol at 10 and the neck about 7 or 8 I would get the same effect, however the vol. would not drop if i slapped the 3 way to bridge. The neck would only drop to the 7or 8 if i selected to go that way. I thing I'm going to change it back and forget the blend. Maybe this is why I haven't seen very many. I learned alot and got pretty good at soldering too. Can't wait to change out my pups.

 

[Artie]

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Hey Whitney; I didn't really think about this before, but that blend pot diagram is for a three-pickup Strat. Since you're using it in a two-pickup configuration, you will get the problem that you're experiencing.

Let me "chew" on this a bit, and see if I can come up with a better wiring diagram. I take it that you have a more or less "standard" 3-way switch?

 

[fatboywhitney]

Re: Wiring Suggestions

Hey Artie! I was hoping to here from you! Yes, standard 3 way. Seems that there should be a way for the master volume to dominate when choosing one pickup or the other, to bypass the blend so that the blend only works when the switch is in the middle position. My objective for this mod was to have a master volume. I'm going to change it back because I do have a nice volume pedal. IT is a worthy excercise in wiring though. I've learned a lot about the electricity flow through some trial and error. I'll wait and see you come up with something. Thanks

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring Suggestions

Actually, the "normal" thing that happens, using a blend pot with two pups, is for it to be bypassed in the middle. (Both pups on full.) Then it "dials-in" one pup, when the other is selected.

This may be tricky, but let me mess with it a bit.

btw - This may take me a little time. I've got some family business thats popping up today. I'll get back pretty soon.

 

[ir0ck]

Re: Wiring Suggestions

Not exactly a guitar enthusiast , but I'm adept at electronics and audio components. You may want to consider a 10 turn sealed pot for what your doing. Those 3/4 turn chinese pots will just give you headaches with scratching after a bit and much less (coarser) control.

http://www.action-electronics.com/pots.htm#10

Hey fatboy , check your pm's lol , I have a feeling I know ya from a ways back.