Worlds Easiest Playing Basses?

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Not a fan of that shape or orientation. It very well may be the world's easiest playing bass, but I wouldn't give it a shot based on aesthetics alone.

I always figured a well set-up instrument was the world's easiest playing bass, but maybe I'm wrong.
 
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Maximum ease of playing might not give the most satisfying sonic results. Sometimes, having to dig in a bit on a higher action imparts more interest into the notes.
 
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Not a fan of that shape or orientation. It very well may be the world's easiest playing bass, but I wouldn't give it a shot based on aesthetics alone.

I always figured a well set-up instrument was the world's easiest playing bass, but maybe I'm wrong.

Everything he said. I have several world's easiest playing basses -- a Jazz, a Rickenbacker, a Mockingbird, to name a few -- and it's precisely because of their nice necks and setups.

I think the weird aesthetics of that bass would lend itself to weird functionality. With a normal Jazz, I can choose to tilt it up or play it level, but I never play it angled down. With that one, it looks like the only way to play it is angled up, or angled down if you want to play it level. No thanks.
 
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"Easiest' for who? Sounds more like marketing hype than actually testing it out on a wide cross-section of bass players. Maybe they didn't have time for that.
 
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Stingrays blow these guys out of the water. But, much like Artisan Bass Works, I'm just assuming here.
 
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Hello. As you can see from my name, I am from Artisan Bass Works. I appreciate you discussing our instruments. I would like to address a couple issues raised here.

Our claim to be "The worlds easiest playing bass" centers on the angled neck design. The neck of our basses stays in a proper playing position with no effort by the player. This eliminates the need to lift and or hold the bass in position. It allows the fretting hand to be free to fret, not hold the bass neck up AND fret. A recent customer stated "you don't realize how much effort it takes to hold the neck up until you don't have to," in his unsolicited review.

It also has to do with setup, comfort, and ergonomics. We ship our basses with a setup on par with the best, as we agree, proper setup does make a bass easy to play, which is why they need no adjustment after purchase like so many of the well known brands. The ergonomic benefits help players who struggle to play because of various issues and has impacted many players in a positive way, extending careers, mitigating pain, allowing longer playing time.

If you like your bass neck pointed down or horizontal, there are plenty of options available to you. If you want your neck to stay in a proper playing position with no effort and no dive, there is one option, an Artisan Bass.

As for tone, we use Seymour Duncan pickups and preamps, I assume you all know why. If you like to dig tone from high action, all you have to do is raise the action.

For the person who said maybe we didn't have time to test it, I must laugh. If only you knew, we spent years testing all sorts of players. We have a large database of feedback and results. Our current basses reflect the results of those years of testing. We prototyped dozen of basses, tested, refined. It was a painstaking process over 5 years. So, yes, we did have the time, and the quality of our current basses reflect that. We have assumed nothing.

Regarding the aesthetics, this is our version of the "standard." We were asked over and over again to use this traditional design and the bass pictured is our version of it, but it is certainly not the only shape available. We offer several standard body designs and we do custom builds using any body design you want. Such things are very subjective, if you just can't get over that the neck is angled, again, there are many options available. It doesn't make ours bad, it's just not for you. I find several basses many people think are beautiful, to be quite ugly. To each his own.

Thank you for looking at our product. I would be happy to answer any questions you have.
 
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I think it's a cool idea, but it's aesthetically definitely not my thing. A good strap, not having it too low, and a slight upward angle to the neck is enough for me. I particularly love how my Rickenbacker feels to play (to answer the OP's question).
 
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If you like your bass neck pointed down or horizontal, there are plenty of options available to you. If you want your neck to stay in a proper playing position with no effort and no dive, there is one option, an Artisan Bass.

Thank you for looking at our product. I would be happy to answer any questions you have.

Hi Scott, thanks for chiming in.

I guess I'm not on the same page as you regarding "proper playing position." For me, proper playing position can be anything from level to about 60 degrees up, depending on the song and the moment. If I'm moving the neck, then obviously my left hand is used to position it -- but once it's positioned, it stays there. It's pretty well balanced, and I just have to adjust my strap on my shoulder a bit.

Just FYI, I have limited mobility in my wrists (and tricky joints all over the place), so it's not like I'd be opposed to having things made easier. I just don't see where the angled neck would be more beneficial to me, given your reasons for it, than what I already have. Having said that, I will withhold judgment until I get a chance to actually play one. But from looking at it, it looks like it would be a pain in the butt to play with the neck level.
 
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Hello. As you can see from my name, I am from Artisan Bass Works. I appreciate you discussing our instruments. I would like to address a couple issues raised here.

Our claim to be "The worlds easiest playing bass" centers on the angled neck design. The neck of our basses stays in a proper playing position with no effort by the player. This eliminates the need to lift and or hold the bass in position. It allows the fretting hand to be free to fret, not hold the bass neck up AND fret. A recent customer stated "you don't realize how much effort it takes to hold the neck up until you don't have to," in his unsolicited review.

It also has to do with setup, comfort, and ergonomics. We ship our basses with a setup on par with the best, as we agree, proper setup does make a bass easy to play, which is why they need no adjustment after purchase like so many of the well known brands. The ergonomic benefits help players who struggle to play because of various issues and has impacted many players in a positive way, extending careers, mitigating pain, allowing longer playing time.

If you like your bass neck pointed down or horizontal, there are plenty of options available to you. If you want your neck to stay in a proper playing position with no effort and no dive, there is one option, an Artisan Bass.

As for tone, we use Seymour Duncan pickups and preamps, I assume you all know why. If you like to dig tone from high action, all you have to do is raise the action.

For the person who said maybe we didn't have time to test it, I must laugh. If only you knew, we spent years testing all sorts of players. We have a large database of feedback and results. Our current basses reflect the results of those years of testing. We prototyped dozen of basses, tested, refined. It was a painstaking process over 5 years. So, yes, we did have the time, and the quality of our current basses reflect that. We have assumed nothing.

Regarding the aesthetics, this is our version of the "standard." We were asked over and over again to use this traditional design and the bass pictured is our version of it, but it is certainly not the only shape available. We offer several standard body designs and we do custom builds using any body design you want. Such things are very subjective, if you just can't get over that the neck is angled, again, there are many options available. It doesn't make ours bad, it's just not for you. I find several basses many people think are beautiful, to be quite ugly. To each his own.

Thank you for looking at our product. I would be happy to answer any questions you have.

It's good to see a company that takes the time to explain their product to the market. Thanks for the comments and I look forward to trying an Artisan Bass Works bass at some point in the future.
 
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If you like your bass neck pointed down or horizontal, there are plenty of options available to you. If you want your neck to stay in a proper playing position with no effort and no dive, there is one option, an Artisan Bass.

What I don't like is that you're implying that to play the bass in any other position than what you're offering is wrong. For me, if it hurts my wrist playing it, it's in the wrong position, despite the angle of the neck. I have a couple basses that sit horizontally for me, and they are awesome to play in that config whereas a couple other basses are better at a different angle. None of them require me to hold them up with my left hand or dive; I have excellent bass straps that hold the bass where it needs to be and keeps it there.

That said, it is nice seeing someone try something different with building.
 
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Hey Guys, Thanks for the responses. For the record, there is no "wrong" way to play bass. I've seen people hold the neck next to their ear and I've seen Quintin Berry...whatever works for you, is your "proper" way. I in no way imply if you don't hold it at 35 degrees elevated you are wrong. That said, when I say "proper playing position," I mean with the neck raised somewhat. A bass teacher would tell a new student to raise the neck to where it feels good, not angle it down or hold it straight out. That doesn't mean straight out is "wrong" per se. It's just that most players elevate the neck to one extent or another. That teacher might tell you any other way is wrong, but I would not.

Our basses have an angle we call our "industry standard playing angle," which is an average angle that the majority of players we sampled found comfortable. If you just let go of the neck, it stays put, but its not locked in to place, one can certainly lower or raise it. Can you make it point downward...not really, but certainly horizontal. It splits that 0 to 60 degree range right down the middle on its own, where it goes from there is up to the player. On our custom builds we offer an individual playing angle that is matched to your preferred position, but the standard models have the avg. angle.

As for wrist issues, our basses help without a doubt. When the neck is elevated one does not have to twist the wrist so much to fret, add to that no weight bearing and a nice low action and your wrist is thankful! Does that mean you cant play some other bass and be OK, of course not, but as you get older, you might find some relief would be welcome.

The other thing I would mention is when your fretting hand is not elevating the neck at all, that fretting hand can potentially move faster. Going from 1 to 20 happens easily with our basses and the less you have to reach to get to 1, the better IMO. All of this becomes even more advantageous with heavier or larger scale instruments, think 35" scale six string.

Thank you all for the conversation and the words of support! I will post a few pics for you guys later today that show some of the things I've been talking about.
 
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As an automation engineer by trade, I think it looks like someone fat-fingered a wrong number into the CNC machine.

Which is not to say I don't like it. Attempts at making basses ergonomic often go WAY farther off the rails. This one looks close enough to a tradition bass that Joe a Public watching from over by the bar would probably assume he'd had a few too many beers.
 
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With all due respect to those who apparently took a lot of time working on the design, to me this looks so wrong in so many ways.
 
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FYI; I am a long time Seymour Duncan user, I was surfing the site for a wiring diagram and found this forum, so I registered just to post a comment. I have demoed these basses at a past NAMM show, these are by far the easiest playing instruments I have ever played. I bought one on the spot! Trying is believing! Check out their website, the only instruments they build, including their custom line has the “Angled Neck” so obviously they stand behind the innovation.
Where would our industry be if companies wouldn’t try to innovate? Or would you negative poster’s prefer another company building $300 Chinese made Jazz bass nock offs? I applaud this company for trying to improve on a design. Hey, Kind of like Seymour or Leo or Les. As musician we should show respect for people expressing themselves through their creativity or art, especially those trying to help our industry!! Check out their Facebook fan page 55,000 followers...they must be doing something right!!
 
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FYI; I am a long time Seymour Duncan user, I was surfing the site for a wiring diagram and found this forum, so I registered just to post a comment. I have demoed these basses at a past NAMM show, these are by far the easiest playing instruments I have ever played. I bought one on the spot! Trying is believing! Check out their website, the only instruments they build, including their custom line has the “Angled Neck” so obviously they stand behind the innovation.

I don't think anyone is knocking them at all for trying something new; I even said it's nice that someone IS trying something new. But for me, as someone that's IN the music industry and knows how powerful marketing is, the design is not appealing to me. So, while it may be the easiest playing instrument I've ever used, I wouldn't try it based on aesthetics alone.

As musician we should show respect for people expressing themselves through their creativity or art, especially those trying to help our industry!! Check out their Facebook fan page 55,000 followers...they must be doing something right!!

Not gushing or disagreeing with someone's idea or innovation is NOT disrespect. We as a society need to remember that, as this whole "You're either with us or against us" BS is exactly that. Again, I like the fact that they're trying something new, but I don't like the design. That is not disrespect at all.

The number of Facebook followers is nothing more than social media, marketing and most of all, POPULARITY. People "like" things on FB almost like collecting baseball cards, without any thought as to what the company or group actually does. Justin Bieber has 65 million likes; is he doing something right?
 
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One Bad Monkey,
I totally agree with your point. As a player of 2 Artisan Basses, I guess I’m a bit biased towards their instruments. The funny thing is, at first, I was not a fan of the aesthetics nature of these instruments. But now they look and feel so natural to me, in fact my other basses feel clumsy and awkward.
 
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