Would tusq saddles be good on a electric?

Would tusq saddles be good on a electric?

  • Traditional metal/String savers and Ferraglide

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • Tusq

    Votes: 4 66.7%

  • Total voters
    6

greendy123

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I just recently got my nut replaced with a tusq nut and it sounds great. All my open chords are louder and have more detail in them, plus it gives my guitar a more acoustic sound. I was wondering if tusq saddles would be good with the guitar plugged in with distortion. I bet the guitar would sound great unplugged and played clean. What do you guys think about that, stay with traditional metal/other graphtech saddles or tusq saddles.
 
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greendy123 said:
I just recently got my nut replaced with a tusq nut and it sounds great.

Which one? Left or right?

Sorry.

Any way, in and old Guitar Player mag, that I don't have anymore, was an interview with a slide guitarist, who's name escapes me, who modded all his Strats bridges with wood & bone saddles to improve tone. Might be fun to try. Which guitar did you have changed? The Strat would probably be easier to mess with.

How's that for not very helpful? :)
 
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I have 3 Strats and I have replaced all the saddles with graphite. Some people will argue that it effects the tone.... I hardly noticed any difference in the tone of my guitars. Since I have changed the saddles I have reduced strings breaking by about 90%. I also have a graphite nut on my Strat that I use the Whammy on. I have Sperzel locking tuners also. The guitar plays and sounds great and rarely goes out of tune. I love the graphite saddles.
 
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Tusq nuts are very close to bone...I Like em! I use Slip Stone nuts alot on my strats and prefer these to graphite because they're white in color..Stew Mac sells the Slip Stone...I also use Vintage Bone..
 
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I was sceptical about Tusq until I dropped a saddle and heard it tinkle.

I have tusq saddles on my Strat, not by choice, I needed the original vintage saddles for a customer's guitar and i had the Tusq ones lying around as part of a job lot. As my guitar is Tropical Green (similar to Surf Green) with an ivory nut (Made from a very old chopstick!) and cream pickguard the look of the Tusq saddles fitted the bill. I have to say it sounds good but I don't know if it's because of the tusq...

I make my own graphite nuts using my own composite recipe because i don't trust any commercial product. Mine are so graphite saturated that you can write with one and they are conductive with a mean resistivity of about 500 ohms/cm
 
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Bludave said:
I have 3 Strats and I have replaced all the saddles with graphite. Some people will argue that it effects the tone.... I hardly noticed any difference in the tone of my guitars. Since I have changed the saddles I have reduced strings breaking by about 90%.

This is interesting; string breakage results primarily from metal fatigue, so for the graphite to be reducing string breakage, keeping all other variables such as player attack and string gauge constant, the graphite must be returning less energy to the string at each resonant cycle, effectively acting as a resonance inhibitor...
 
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This is interesting; string breakage results primarily from metal fatigue, so for the graphite to be reducing string breakage, keeping all other variables such as player attack and string gauge constant, the graphite must be returning less energy to the string at each resonant cycle, effectively acting as a resonance inhibitor...

That is ..SOUND REASONING...
As far as the physics goes, you summed it up eloquently. Doesnt need any more complication than that.
I am looking as I was considering Titanium saddles.
I already have a tusq nut in one guitar, am sold and about to put another one in another guitar and its my favourite so
I want to get the bridge happening.

Titanium has a hexagonal grain structure, is light and corrosion resistant.
THey will use it in joint replacements often.

THat said, the hexagonal structure makes it brittle and you cannot cold work it like steel as sharp bends will snap it.
Unless you use Titanium cotaed strings (such as Ernie Ball), you are fighting a stronger metal and the strings will lose being Nickel
the majority metal making contact and Ti essentially cutting it off at the bridge.

This is just from an engineering standpoint. I have not ever used Ti saddles but just your bit of research combined with what I already know,
is enough to make me drop that pursuit and look further at tusq saddles.

They are awesome at the nut yes.

The string makes contact at the nut, has the sharp edge ensuring the note rings then it touches only again at the saddle.
If it works at the nut, there is no tangible reason that tusq saddles will note provide similar sonic improvement and bring the benefit of greatly reduced string breakage as they stand to be the "less hard" material in that pair.

sorry for the long post, was thinking aloud really..
 
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I don't think it inhibits vibration. I think that it allows vibration without binding the string to one point on the saddle thereby reducing metal fatigue in the string.

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Ummmm
Guys

Uhhhh

Thread is over ten years old

The Internet has moved on
 
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All I saw was the post from 14 hrs ago. Didn't bother to look back any further to see when the actual thread started.

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I don't think it inhibits vibration. I think that it allows vibration without binding the string to one point on the saddle thereby reducing metal fatigue in the string.

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I'm not sure what you mean by that, or what the technical rationale is. Bending occurs at the point where the pulse initiated by the player's attack is reflected back from the nut or saddle. This will always happen at the same point on the saddle when the kinetic energy in the string is converted into potential energy stored by the elastic qualities of the string material. Some energy will be dispersed in the material supporting the string and if this material has a low coefficient of restitution, less energy will be returned and resonance will be inhibited, i.e. the more energy that is lost at each vibration cycle the faster the note will decay. I don't know if this is what is happening with Tusq; restitution and energetics is a funny thing and has little to do with properties like hardness or softness. a rubber ball has a high coefficient of restitution, which is why it bounces high when you drop it, but it would be a rubbish material for a nut. Lead is very hard and heavy and dense, but is also a crap material for a nut because it is soft, so it deforms, and if you were to make a nut of lead so much energy would be absorbed in the deformation of the supporting mass that it would sound really dull. Titanium is hard, and has a very low density, lower than aluminium, i believe but it's hardness means very little energy is lost in deforming the supporting material.

i honestly don't know why Tusq sounds as good as it does. On the face of it it's a soft material and not very hard wearing under load, but some materials behave differently under certain types of applied load.

I sometimes encounter string breakage with tunomatics on Gibsons. Gibson are pretty sloppy and often notch their saddles by whacking it with a cold chisel and then we see a lot of string breakage. Fitting a new bridge, un-notched, or opening the notch out so that it cradles the string without pinching it usually alleviates the breakage, so if this is what you mean, then you may be on to something.

Don't worry that this thread is ten years old; if it hasn't been deleted or archived it might still be of interest to some people.
 
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It probably has more to do with the coefficient of friction.

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String breakages at the saddle are almost always to do with burrs - on newer strings. Filing a groove on metal is different to something like tusq. But the stringsaver saddles also have a locating depression meaning the string is less likely/not likely to want to migrate sidewards during playing and bending. The typical bent steel saddle is more likely to have the string move out of place without a filed groove.
The material being lower friction is a much more benefit too.
 
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