Lewguitar
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Re: Wow! Big difference in tone between 50's mod and modern wiring!
That's my man Artie!
I will.
That's my man Artie!
Wow! Big difference in tone between 50's mod and modern wiring!
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hermetico
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Re: Wow! Big difference in tone between 50's mod and modern wiring!
Yup. I know, master.
There are some things in guitars that go against logic but, they happen.
Some of the weird things on my list of "this makes-no-sense" stuff:
50's mod (even with pot at 10) sounds brighter. Opens PAF pickups and could make harsh some Strato pickups.
A different cap with tone at 10 makes some difference (very subtle, specially on high-end content). By example, sprage orange drops sound with some kind of artificial ice-picking high end, PIOs sound warmer and more even and, ceramic disks are warmer and a tad dirtier (but musical). This subtles differences are bigger the bigger the cap is (I mean from 100V to 400V, etc). Just heard by a pinch of people.
True-bypass sounds different in different pedals, with just a pedal connected at a time, direct to amp (that means, jack to jack thru a 3PDT switch). Some true-bypass are more tone sucker. Same guitar, same cables, same amp, same settings. Repeatable.
Well, it's weird... and interesting!.
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Those are things that I've accidentally found, while re-doing wiring, comparing pedals, etc.
I'm not experimenting per se, just what from time to time pops up.
Just a question for you, Artie. School me on the following topics.
A volume pot at 10 shouldn't be transparent?.
Greater resistance values por such a pot makes the pickup brighter sounding so... why if you wire the pickup direct to jack does it sound with more output and brighter (specially on the "air" band, with lot of high-end)?.
Maybe the tone at 10 is filtering something?.
Yup. I know, master.
There are some things in guitars that go against logic but, they happen.
Some of the weird things on my list of "this makes-no-sense" stuff:
50's mod (even with pot at 10) sounds brighter. Opens PAF pickups and could make harsh some Strato pickups.
A different cap with tone at 10 makes some difference (very subtle, specially on high-end content). By example, sprage orange drops sound with some kind of artificial ice-picking high end, PIOs sound warmer and more even and, ceramic disks are warmer and a tad dirtier (but musical). This subtles differences are bigger the bigger the cap is (I mean from 100V to 400V, etc). Just heard by a pinch of people.
True-bypass sounds different in different pedals, with just a pedal connected at a time, direct to amp (that means, jack to jack thru a 3PDT switch). Some true-bypass are more tone sucker. Same guitar, same cables, same amp, same settings. Repeatable.
Well, it's weird... and interesting!.
:1:
Those are things that I've accidentally found, while re-doing wiring, comparing pedals, etc.
I'm not experimenting per se, just what from time to time pops up.
Just a question for you, Artie. School me on the following topics.
A volume pot at 10 shouldn't be transparent?.
Greater resistance values por such a pot makes the pickup brighter sounding so... why if you wire the pickup direct to jack does it sound with more output and brighter (specially on the "air" band, with lot of high-end)?.
Maybe the tone at 10 is filtering something?.
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DarkMatter
Unprofessional Toneologist
Re: Wow! Big difference in tone between 50's mod and modern wiring!
I see that at 10 they should be the same, but I certainly noticed a change when I switched over one of my guitars to 50's. But I cannot say with absolute certainty that it wasn't all in my head.
I see that at 10 they should be the same, but I certainly noticed a change when I switched over one of my guitars to 50's. But I cannot say with absolute certainty that it wasn't all in my head.
Lewguitar
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Re: Wow! Big difference in tone between 50's mod and modern wiring!
It wasn't all in your head.
A wiring diagram on the computer screen or on a piece of paper is just a representation of the thing it's describing - but it's not the thing itself and it's not reality. It's only a drawing of something that's real.
We all know how the actual experience of something is always different than the way that "something" was described or fantasized about.
There's the world in our heads and then there's the real world with things the way they actually are.
It wasn't all in your head.
A wiring diagram on the computer screen or on a piece of paper is just a representation of the thing it's describing - but it's not the thing itself and it's not reality. It's only a drawing of something that's real.
We all know how the actual experience of something is always different than the way that "something" was described or fantasized about.
There's the world in our heads and then there's the real world with things the way they actually are.
