Wow Lush And Sweet, Which Duncan Pickup For This Sound?

Re: Wow Lush And Sweet, Which Duncan Pickup For This Sound?

Just thought it was easier if all the pickups were the same make, no messing with phase and ground wire swapping, and though a Duncan would be a better quality product?
Vikki
 
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Wow.. that was pretty d*** good for an allparts p'up but how much of it was his setup/chops/amp?

I've been wanting to try something like this on my tele for sometime now.
 
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Wow.. that was pretty d*** good for an allparts p'up but how much of it was his setup/chops/amp?

Exactly. I think the greatest contributer to his tone has to do with the amp and EQ settings. Although I don't discount the contribution of the PU. Admit that it does sound great for a Tele, smooth and full.
 
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Exactly. I think the greatest contributer to his tone has to do with the amp and EQ settings. Although I don't discount the contribution of the PU. Admit that it does sound great for a Tele, smooth and full.

I like this, which Duncan Mini Humbucker will give me this sound.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ODh9_ab8pc
Vikki:eyecrazy:

That guy, whoever he is, has a great touch, good musical ideas and seems to know his way around the fingerboard. Very talented. And THAT'S why his tone sounds the way it does.

Many players are not as well coordinated. Both of his hands work together beautifully to produce that tone. That's something I really notice in younger players and remember about my own playing when I was younger. Both hands have to work together to bring out the tone. You have have to fret cleanly and pick cleanly and do both at exactly the right moment to shape the best tone.

If you can play as good as that guy in the video, then I would guess that Duncan Mini Humbucker SM-1 would do the trick for you.

A great player will usually make a mediocre pickup, guitar or amp sound great.

A poor or mediocre player will often sound like crap regardless of what pickup he or she is using and sometimes it seems like the more in the dark they are the more they tend to blame their gear for the harsh or mediocre tone they're getting.

Fortunately that never happens here on the forum... :lmao:

Anyways, to get a tone like that guy is getting you have to be able to play as well as that guy.

Good luck!
 
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I would rate the "contributers" like this:

the guy's chops
amp/eq
p'up
setup

I've always been wondering what Lew meant when he says, "XYZ has great touch". Thanks for clearing that up.......... I think I'll go practice now. :D
 
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I've always been wondering what Lew meant when he says, "XYZ has great touch". Thanks for clearing that up.......... I think I'll go practice now. :D

That's what I'm talking about: the talent, knowledge and hand coordination to produce a beautiful tone with your hands.

With many players what they are picking with one hand isn't timed with what they're fretting with the other hand.

And they don't caress the strings - they stab at them or try to play faster than they can play or just play sloppy or aren't hearing or really feeling what they're playing inside of themselves as they are creating whatever they are playing.

And brother, the bad tone that results from that "lack of touch" isn't usually the guitar pickup's fault. But it sure gets blamed on the pickup a lot around here.
 
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Agree. That guy has talent. Certainly makes or breaks the tone. I can't discount the affect that good equipment makes on tone, but agree that we place too much importance on things that we can easily purchase rather than the blood, sweat, and tears and some natural talent that can't be bought.
 
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This is bit off topic but Lew, what would you recommend to a noob so they can learn "great touch"? I'm referring to like exercises or things to work on. I sure as hell don't have it but I'd work my ass off to get it or as close as possible.

That's what I'm talking about: the talent, knowledge and hand coordination to produce a beautiful tone with your hands.

Many players are not as well coordinated. Both of his hands work together beautifully to produce that tone. That's something I really notice in younger players and remember about my own playing when I was younger. Both hands have to work together to bring out the tone. You have have to fret cleanly and pick cleanly and do both at exactly the right moment to shape the best tone.

^^ Does that sum it up?

Anywho, Vikki, you can get a SD Vintage Mini-Humbucker SM-1 if money is tight. Otherwise, I'd personally would pay up for a used or new antiquity II mini. Antiquities have custom shop quality without the price tag. They're still pretty expensive though.
 
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When I first started playing guitar the best thing you could have (even more than amazing technique or speed) was "good feel" - it's also the hardest thing to explain to another person that is also a player. I tend to think of it as how you play your notes. Are they lifeless or machine like, or do you put something a little extra into it that makes it your way of doing it? I feel like after you've progressed past the mechanical aspect of playing notes, it becomes more about how you play those notes. I've always loved the guitar because your fingers are right on the strings - the things that make the sound - and you have so much control over how those strings vibrate (unlike a piano for instance). I guess it's about that control - using it to express yourself in a way that is uniquely you as opposed to just playing notes.
 
Re: Wow Lush And Sweet, Which Duncan Pickup For This Sound?

i think the sm1 will get you as close as the pickup is gonna take you ... i am guessing that guy plays with high gauge strings too ...

and yeah, his chops are stellar
 
Re: Wow Lush And Sweet, Which Duncan Pickup For This Sound?

When I first started playing guitar the best thing you could have (even more than amazing technique or speed) was "good feel" - it's also the hardest thing to explain to another person that is also a player. I tend to think of it as how you play your notes. Are they lifeless or machine like, or do you put something a little extra into it that makes it your way of doing it? I feel like after you've progressed past the mechanical aspect of playing notes, it becomes more about how you play those notes. I've always loved the guitar because your fingers are right on the strings - the things that make the sound - and you have so much control over how those strings vibrate (unlike a piano for instance). I guess it's about that control - using it to express yourself in a way that is uniquely you as opposed to just playing notes.

I think this is MOST evident in violin. It takes a lot of practice just to become a bad player. If you spend your entire life practicing violin you can become mediocre. It is very rare, but if you spend your entire life practicing violin AND feel/touch/expression and when that instrument becomes an extension of your heart and mind, you can become truly great (like Pearlman).
 
Re: Wow Lush And Sweet, Which Duncan Pickup For This Sound?

Looks like an SM1 somewhere in the future.
Vikki:)
 
Re: Wow Lush And Sweet, Which Duncan Pickup For This Sound?

Just another thought.......maybe an Antiquity MIni? Ants by and large have a warmer smoother tone.

Luke
 
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Thanks....
I'll keep my eyes open for an Antiquity mini somewhere down the line.....oh and get practising.
Vikki:1:
 
Re: Wow Lush And Sweet, Which Duncan Pickup For This Sound?

That sounded great. I never would have guessed that to be a tele if I didn't see it with my own eyes.
 
Re: Wow Lush And Sweet, Which Duncan Pickup For This Sound?

I asked the guy what he was playing through and he replied:

"I recorded this clip direct to Sonar using a home built compressor and preamp..."
 
Re: Wow Lush And Sweet, Which Duncan Pickup For This Sound?

i asked about string gauge
he said 11s - not surprised
he's a real talented player
 
Re: Wow Lush And Sweet, Which Duncan Pickup For This Sound?

I notice the same guy has posted a new clip, with the Allparts and a Seymour Duncan 5/2 in the bridge.........



Just to say i purchased an Allparts Mini but i can't get it to sound like that......

Vikki:eyecrazy:
 
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